[ExI] Definition of Consciousness (Was Re: My guesses about GPTs consciousness)

[Brent Allsop]

Oh, we are just talking past each other then.
That's why I don't like the term qualia, in the first place.  The term
Quality is so much better.
I don't believe in anything other than what you are talking about (I just
think they are a bit different than what you describe.)


On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 4:52 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Strictly speaking, I do not believe there are color qualities in the
> world, unless there are humans to process the inputs. I believe color
> qualities emerge due to the interaction of humans and objects in the
> world.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't like the term qualia, I prefer the term quality.
> > So I wonder if you guys think color qualities are different from qualia.
> > (i.e. are you saying there are no color qualities in this world, or that
> science isn't interested in that part of reality...?)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 4:17 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >       Thank you Ben, I'll take the stuffed red herring please! ;)
> >
> >       Best regards,
> >       Daniel
> >
> >
> >       On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
> >
> >       > On 18/04/2023 23:39, efc at swisscows.email wrote:
> >       >> In fact, I could even assent to the statement that qualia and
> redness in
> >       >> fact are "red herrings" that will get us nowhere, and should
> best be
> >       >> left alone.
> >       >
> >       > Congratulations, Daniel.
> >       >
> >       > Take any prize from the top shelf!
> >       >
> >       > Ben
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