[ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Fri Apr 21 04:50:45 UTC 2023

Bender, Mitchel, Gebru are all anti-transhumanist that use the trope that
transhumanism === eugenics. I want to use some bad language here but GPT-4
told me it is not a good idea.
Yes, they are AI haters for identity political reasons. Watch this:

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 9:48 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> *From:* Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com>
> *…*
> >…As for the "club," there is no club, but most AI researchers are not
> wild-dreamers and prone to hyperbole. One would never know it from what
> goes on here on ExI, but my views on these matters are the mainstream.  -gts
> Hard to say really.  Plenty of people have concluded ChatGPT is human
> level or higher intelligence while stopping short of saying it is
> conscious.  This is what gave me the idea of separating those two
> parameters into perpendicular axes somehow, then seeing if we can find a
> way to measure them.
> We have ways of measuring human intelligence (we think we do (in some
> specific areas)) but I know of no tests for consciousness.  So now our job
> is to invent such tests.
> Ideas?
> OK I have one idea, a bad one: ask it if it is conscious.  OK did that, it
> claims it is not.  But that is inconclusive, for if it is conscious it
> might lie and claim that it is not.
> Wait, this whole notion might be going down a completely wrong absurd
> road.  Does it make a lick of sense to separate intelligence from
> consciousness?  Billw or anyone else, does that make any sense to
> hypothetically dissociate those concepts, which cannot be separated in
> humans?
> spike
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