[ExI] all we are is just llms

[William Flynn Wallace]

Consciousness is the set of functions that enable the intellectual
functions to work. They are separate. ; bill w

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:59 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *…*> *On Behalf Of *Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat
> *Cc:* Ben Zaiboc <ben at zaiboc.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] all we are is just llms
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> On 21/04/2023 06:28, spike wrote:
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> >>…Regarding measuring GPT’s intelligence, this must have already been
> done and is being done.  Reasoning: I hear GPT is passing medical boards
> exams and bar exams and such, so we should be able to give it IQ tests,
> then compare its performance with humans on that test.  I suspect GPT will
> beat everybody at least on some tests.
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> >…Yeah, but don't forget, spike, they just have *simulated* understanding
> of these things we test them for. So the test results are not really valid.
> That will include IQ tests. No good. Simulated intelligence, see?
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> Ja, Ben where I was really going with that idea is exploring whether it is
> possible to separate consciousness from intelligence.  It isn’t clear at
> all that those are two different things, but I am no expert on these
> matters.  We can imagine some kinds of intelligence tests which AI can beat
> everyone, but that in itself doesn’t prove that software is conscious.  If
> it doesn’t, then what I am looking for is a way to somehow model
> consciousness as a separate thing from intelligence, even if the two are
> highly correlated (which I suspect they are (but I don’t know (because I am
> waaaay the hell outside my area of expertise with this entire discussion (I
> have learned a lot here however (and thanks to all who are posting on the
> topic.)))))
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> A lotta what people are doing with ChatGPT today is just assuming
> intelligence and assuming away or ignoring consciousness, treating those as
> two separate things.
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> Eliezer must have come upon this question dozens of times by now, but I
> haven’t followed Less Wrong over the years.  Eli followers, has he
> published anything anywhere close to the notion of treating consciousness
> and intelligence as two separate things?
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