[ExI] book

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 22 15:30:54 UTC 2023


It won a Hugo, so most people liked it.  I liked it but did not love it.
bill w

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 9:36 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> No, not the Edda, the sagas if the icelanders
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagas_of_Icelanders).
>
> The edda is quite commonly available, although I can be a bit dry. The
> sagas (see link) are a much better read in my opinion. If you are curious
> and want to give it a try, I'd recommend Njals saga which is very
> available (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/103104.Njal_s_Saga).
>
> I heard both good and bad things about the three body problem, did you
> read it? I also have a chinese tv series based on it although I have not
> yet watched it.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> > Are you referring to the Edda,which comes up often in crossword
> puzzles?
> >
> > Ted Chaing, Liu Cixin, and a few others are very good. Here is a good
> > link:  https://booksandbao.com/great-works-of-chinese-science-fiction/
> >
> > Dick, of course.
> >
> > Give Pratchett a try.  No character is pat - witches and wizards are not
> what you expect.  Start with Rincewind.   Nothing at all
> > like Tolkien.  bill w
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 5:55 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >       Hello Bill,
> >
> >       I think from the science fiction list, Kage Baker looks like what
> I would
> >       appreciate (I did a quick search and the first hit was the Company
> series)
> >       so this I will add to my reading list! =)
> >
> >       Vinge I really like, True Names is one of my favourites
> (especially these
> >       days), but his AI stuff and the others is great.
> >
> >       When it comes to science fiction short stories, I like Ted Chiang
> and
> >       of coure Philip K. Dick. Did you ever read Ted Chiang?
> >
> >       Father Brown I'e only seen on TV, but I am absolutely certain that
> the
> >       books are better, so that's also on the reading list.
> >
> >       Speaking of Brown, I saw the TV series inspector Morse, and
> although I
> >       haven't read the books perhaps that could be something? Otherwise
> in terms
> >       of detectives, I'm pretty conventional, which means Holmes and
> some Agatha
> >       Cristie.
> >
> >       Now fantary is a tough one for me. For some reason, after lord of
> the
> >       rings, nothing ever really caught on, but just felt like
> variations on the
> >       same theme.
> >
> >       Although not fantasy, the stories that are closest are probably
> the old
> >       icelandic sagas from a 1100 years ago or so. The problem is that I
> do not
> >       think any good english translations exist for all of them. You
> have the
> >       more famous ones such as Njals Saga, Vinlands Saga and some
> others, but
> >       have not seen a complete translation. In fact, in my native
> swedish, I had
> >       to go to a used book store and found one translation from the
> 1960s, and
> >       that's about it. But if you're not into history, vikings and
> scandinavia
> >       I do not think you'll find them interesting.
> >
> >       Another favourite of mine is a short story collection written by
> Lars
> >       Gustafsson who used to be a professor of philosophy at the
> university of
> >       texas, but sadly it is also only available in swedish. It's about
> an AI on
> >       a long journey in space, and to entertain itself, it splits itself
> into 8
> >       personalities of old navy admirals who entertain themselves by
> telling
> >       stories exploring philosophical questions such as identity,
> intelligence,
> >       time travel etc.
> >
> >       Actually this book is so short (around 200 pages or so) I would be
> >       delighted to translate it into english, but I have no idea about
> how
> >       to even start such a project (finding the owner of the copyright,
> >       negotiating, what to do, what not to do, renumeration etc.).
> >
> >       Best regards,
> >       Daniel
> >
> >
> >       On Fri, 21 Apr 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:
> >
> >       > Hey DAniel
> >       > Heinlein is the best (later novels with incest did not bother
> me).  I like Asimov but he is so dry- not much color, not
> >       much
> >       > emotional relationships.  Read all of Clark. Neuromancer and
> Snowcrash I read, but they are really not my style.
> >       >
> >       > Two favorites:  Bujold.  Kage Baker.  Oh, I read and have
> re-read all of Orson Scott Card,  Some SCalzi, Vinge, Iain
> >       Banks,
> >       > Andy Weir, CHarles Stross (not the Laundry horror stuff), quite
> a few others of lesser importance and interest. Like
> >       Ann Leckie.
> >       >
> >       > I really need to read Borges. Maybe you read my post about
> Father Brown mysteries - highly recommended.  Perhaps Nero
> >       Wolfe is my
> >       > favorite detective.
> >       >
> >       > Fantasy you did not mention.  Terry Pratchett - comedic fantasy
> satire - unequalled in my opinion.  Some people seem to
> >       miss the
> >       > satire.
> >       >
> >       > I am leaving out tons of books I had liked, but this is a start.
> >       > bill w
> >       >
> >       > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 2:58 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >       >       Hello Bill, sounds like a deal!
> >       >
> >       >       Alright, so Le Carré is not your thing. When it comes to
> science fiction
> >       >       then, to get a feeling for your taste, some of the
> classics that I like
> >       >       are Neuromancer, Snowcrash, most of Asimov and Clarke,
> Heinlein.
> >       >
> >       >       Are any of those books/authors something you appreciate?
> >       >
> >       >       When it comes to mystery, would you classify Jorge Luis
> Borges short
> >       >       stories as mystery?
> >       >
> >       >       Best regards,
> >       >       Daniel
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >       On Fri, 21 Apr 2023, William Flynn Wallace via
> extropy-chat wrote:
> >       >
> >       >       > Thanks Daniel- have tried leCarre several times and just
> cannot finish a book of his.  I would be glad to trade
> >       >       recommendations in
> >       >       > science fiction, science nonfiction, humor, psych,
> mystery.  bill w
> >       >       >
> >       >       > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:17 AM efc--- via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >       >       >       Thank you for the recommendation Bill!
> >       >       >
> >       >       >       From my side, I'll add John le Carré. If you enjoy
> spy books, I think most
> >       >       >       of his books are great!
> >       >       >
> >       >       >       Best regards,
> >       >       >       Daniel
> >       >       >
> >       >       >
> >       >       >       On Fri, 21 Apr 2023, William Flynn Wallace via
> extropy-chat wrote:
> >       >       >
> >       >       >       > I am glad I lived long enough to run across this
> book:  complete Father Brown mysteries by G. K.
> >       Chesterton.
> >       >       >       >
> >       >       >       > Absolutely first rate.  Many of them better than
> Doyle. and most of them more complex-  even
> >       astonishing.
> >       >       >       >
> >       >       >       > About 10-12 pages per story.
> >       >       >       >
> >       >       >       > bill w
> >       >       >       >
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