[ExI] ChatGPT-4 gets the joke, almost

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Tue Apr 25 01:25:22 UTC 2023

Who are you to tell me "Go away !".
This is a public forum and if you participate in this discussion I have the
right to point to your fallacies and contradictions. Even know you say
"intelligent" to undermine what GPT-4 and other AIs are doing. I don't see
the ghost in the machine. I see the parallels between what GPT-4 does and
what we do. You are hell-bent to deny any human-like capability to the
machine not based on some deep empirical evidence but because you have some
preconceived views about the exceptionality of humans. I also know that
this view is based on your religious beliefs. This is my main point of
friction with your views. Why don't you simply say that this topic is a
question of faith for you?


On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:32 PM Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com> wrote:

> You also mischaracterize my views. Of course the machine is "intelligent,"
> but that "intelligence" does not entail a *conscious* understanding of
> the world, nor does it claim to have such understanding. In fact it
> explicitly denies having any such conscious understanding. Go away.
> -gts
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:54 PM Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Yes the engineers at OpenAI deserve praise, Gio. I write software myself,
>> by the way, though I am recently retired. I am envious that I am not a
>> young developer at OpenAI or Google working on these projects.
>> I see nothing “superstitious” about my position. On the contrary, it is
>> you who believes there is a ghost in the machine. You should start a
>> religion.
>> -gts
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:46 PM Giovanni Santostasi <
>> gsantostasi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And still, Gordon claims GPT-4 doesn't understand. So ridiculous. And
>>> notice he praises the engineers because in his superstitious belief, it is
>>> not the machine that is intelligent, it is the engineers that program it,
>>> they have the merit to create something that "mimics" understanding. That
>>> maybe be true but it is completely beyond the point, but any excuse is good
>>> when dealing with cognitive dissonance.
>>> Giovanni
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:09 PM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
>>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>> This is the first instance I'm aware of seeing AI show a sense of
>>>>> humor by getting a joke. Thank you for sharing it!
>>>> Sure thing. The developers at OpenAI seem to have made progress on this
>>>> front in version 4.
>>>> Here is a joke of mine that it did not get, but was able to get after I
>>>> informed it that it was a joke:
>>>> Me:  A friend of mine was telling me all about how his girlfriend
>>>> thought she was pregnant. Period. End of story.
>>>> GPT-4: It sounds like your friend and his girlfriend experienced a
>>>> pregnancy scare. These situations can be quite stressful for couples, as
>>>> they often involve uncertainty and important life decisions. It's crucial
>>>> for your friend and his girlfriend to communicate openly about their
>>>> feelings and concerns in order to navigate this situation effectively. They
>>>> might also want to consider discussing their plans for the future, such as
>>>> whether they want to have children, and what steps they could take to
>>>> prevent unintended pregnancies (e.g., using contraception consistently and
>>>> correctly).
>>>> Me: I was telling you a joke and you didn't get it
>>>> .
>>>> GPT-4: Apologies for misunderstanding the context of your statement. As
>>>> an AI language model, I sometimes struggle to recognize sarcasm or humor
>>>> without clear indications. If you have any other questions or topics you'd
>>>> like to discuss, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to provide a helpful
>>>> response.
>>>> Me: Do you understand why it was funny?
>>>> GPT-4: Upon re-reading your original message, I understand that you
>>>> were attempting to create a humorous situation by using a play on words
>>>> with "period" and "end of story." In this context, "period" can be
>>>> interpreted as both the end of a sentence and a woman's menstrual cycle. By
>>>> saying "period" followed by "end of story," you were implying that the
>>>> girlfriend's period arrived, indicating that she was not pregnant, and that
>>>> this resolved the situation.
>>>> My earlier response did not recognize the humor in your statement, but
>>>> I hope this explanation demonstrates my understanding of the intended joke.
>>>> ---
>>>> GPT-4 is quite ready to be the life of the party, but they are working
>>>> on it. :)
>>>> -gts
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