[ExI] a little essay on anger and respect
spike at rainier66.com
spike at rainier66.com
Wed Apr 26 17:29:30 UTC 2023
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From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Keith Henson via extropy-chat
Subject: Re: [ExI] a little essay on anger and respect
> > It's a consequence of evolution. People have been selected for
> > belief to trump reason because genes for doing so survived better.
> >
>...No link, have not found any place for the paper. Will send you a copy.
Keith
I will tread some dangerous ground here, for when I suggested the following twenty years ago, I was soundly scolded by Eliezer, who insisted that evolution does not operate at the group level. I believed then and believe now that it does to some extent, and I will present my reasoning.
Europe was populated by warring tribes for centuries, and there were nomadic privateers and small independent raiders and such. But over time a reproductive advantage accrued to the guy who could organize a group, get them to stay put, farm some land, build a rocky barrier to defend the harvest from raiders and beasts, work together, eventually build castles and such. They needed the men to fight as a unit, which led to the notion of large organized armies with a hierarchy, all fighting for god, king and country, where the boundaries between the three became a bit fuzzy.
When an army works together well as a unit, the casualties in that army are lower than an opposing disorganized rabble. Specialization results in improved weaponry and unit cohesiveness. Returning victorious soldiers who did risk themselves for a belief in god, kind and country, enjoyed social status and perhaps spawned more children, in whom he instilled belief, a kind of memetic evolution we now think of as a natural selection mechanism in evolutionary psychology.
That looks to me like a thought-experiment example of evolution working at a group level: it results in an organized society where people don't kill each other but does harm the reproductive capacity of the societal non-conforming, such as we do by imprisoning criminals. Result: that society tends to evolve those who believe in following law.
spike
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