[ExI] Peer review reviewed

[Will Steinberg]

Thank god some other people  think this.

The whole current system is fucked.   School sucks and I think it's likely
the root of most our problems here

On Fri, Jan 6, 2023, 11:12 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I am almost completely self-taught. Self-motivation is what made this
> possible. Perhaps I underestimated the inherent curiosity of most people? I
> think humans are naturally curious and will master a subject on their own
> accord if they aren’t dissuaded. Formal education teaches children to
> associate learning with stress and examinations which results in children
> viewing reading and learning as a chore. This may reduce the likelihood of
> children choosing to learn in their free time. I never felt studying
> Physics to be a chore until I studied it at university. The bitterness
> still lingers.
>
> On Jan 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not stressful.
> Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.
>
> Have you ever tried to teach anything to anyone?  If you think getting
> self-motivation etc. can be easily achieved, you are very wrong.  Very
> idealistic - not practical.  We do try, of course.  Math esp. is hard to
> make fun.  bill w
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:05 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Our highly competitive formal education system leads children to
>> associate learning with stress. The inflexible system for scientific
>> research dissemination sucks the pleasure out of scientific writing and
>> results in tedious papers that are painful to read.
>>
>> Learning should be inherently pleasant and self motivated, not stressful.
>> Science should incite curiosity and wonder, not conjure tedium.
>>
>> Technology is bringing change. Instructors can no longer flay students
>> with mind-numbing busywork assignments as solutions can often be found
>> online and AI technology such as ChatGPT is now capable of solving most
>> problems students are faced with. Large language models are becoming better
>> and better and are now capable of intelligently assisting with all forms of
>> writing, eliminating much of the tedium. The days of pain will no longer be
>> plenty.
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> <24ab2184-c024-44c5-81cc-4bc14851b965_1762x1173.jpeg>
>>
>> The rise and fall of peer review
>> <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
>> experimentalhistory.substack.com
>> <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
>>
>> <https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-peer-review>
>>
>> No problems that can’t be fixed?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dan
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