[ExI] Most Monarch butterflies in 20 years

[Brent Allsop]

Yea, I want some chicken so I can eat second hand bugs!

That reminds me of people who jokingly say: "I only eat animals that are
vegetarian."

And back to Monarch Butterflies.  I grew up having so much fun looking for
Monarch caterpillars eating milkweed in a field across the street from us.
We would feed them, watch them form the chrysalis, then emerge and fly away.
I haven't seen any of those for a LONG time.  I hope they start coming back
up here in Utah, also.




On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 7:39 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Most Monarch butterflies in 20 years
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> >…Cockroaches equal to monarch butterflies??? ;)
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> >…I suppose next you're going to argue we should welcome Mosquitoes, and
> fire the great Mosquito abatement authority we have here in Salt Lake City?
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> On the contrary Brent, mosquitoes are not just carnivorous, they devour
> humans.  We slay anything which devours humans, without remorse.
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> But ja, cockroaches are harmless (they don’t really spread disease (that
> was a bad rap from the start)) and they are interesting bugs in their own
> way.  They seem to be so adaptable, whereas butterflies are always
> threatened by anything and everything.  The butterflies have a specialized
> and limited diet, they live in a narrow-ish climate range.  Roaches live
> eeeeeverywhere and eat anything.
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> But here’s the real deal: chickens will eat roaches if they can catch
> them.  I didn’t know either until I saw it happen.  We are living in times
> where we really need to be thinking more on how we turn plant matter into
> protein.  We know cows taste great, but they need a lot of water and a lot
> of land.  Hogs are less environmentally demanding, but chickens are better
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> We know that chickens can grow full size on seeds, but my theory is they
> will grow faster on protein.  We are told we will eat bugs (and own nothing
> (and be happy)) but I think it just won’t catch on.  I can easily envision
> eating bug-fed chicken however, and roaches might be just the thing: they
> eat anything and breed quickly.  They are extremely robust.  Chickens seem
> to like them.  So… we eat bugs second hand.  And we own lotsa stuff and we
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