[ExI] for longer life

efc at swisscows.email efc at swisscows.email
Sat May 6 11:52:58 UTC 2023


Apologies if this has already been mentioned. I've been quite busy the 
last week so it could be that a message or two was missed.

My question is about the classic "blue zone" research. I heard somewhere 
that this has been discredited, or that the advice is not as strong as is 
implied. Does anyone know if this is true?

That being said however, here are the classic blue zone points for a long 
life:

1. Move naturally (be physically active, but not extreme).
2. Purpose. Have a sense of purpose.
3. Avoid stress.
4. Eat until 80% full.
5. Eat a varied diet with plants, and a bit of meat.
6. Avoid excessive amounts of alcohol.
7. Find a community to belong to.
8. Family first. Prioritize family and relationships.
9. "Right tribe"? Find a community with healthy habits.

On a personal note, I agree with a previous message that the classic 
stoic texts (Seneca, Rufus, Epictetus and perhaps Aurelius) contain a lot 
of valuable material. Musonius Rufus for instance, champions eating what 
is "in season".

Also, based on purely subjective observation, purpose is immensely 
important. I've heard or seen many times, when someone retires and 
completely let's go of jobs and responsibilities, that they just "wither 
and die". Very sad when someone worked hard all his life, saving for 
retirement, and then just "let's go" or dies shortly after retirement. I 
think it is very important to keep a purpose and that it will extend life.

Finally, another thing I would argue in favour of is regular doctors 
visits x times per year (2? 4? more?) to catch things early.

Well, some of my observations at least.

Best regards,
Daniel


On Sat, 6 May 2023, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat wrote:

> On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 4:43 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       The #1 stress cause:  death of a spouse.  So don't have one.  They just get worse and worse as they age, healthwise. The
>       only dependent variable I considered was length, not happiness or anything else.
> 
> 
> If you have the right spouse - a true partner - you will have a longer life on average even assuming you outlive your spouse (in
> other words, that you live through your spouse's death).
>  
>       Exercise - if you want to walk ten miles a day and climb mountains, then give up the idea that you won't wear out sooner
>       - you will.  You will have great muscles and heart function with knees and hips that want to stay home.
> 
> 
> That's not what they were talking about.  They were contrasting maintenance-level exercise with literally no exercise; your
> suggestion was literally no exercise, which - relative to maintenance-level exercise - is proven to reduce lifespan. 
> 
>


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