[ExI] nova on dogs

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2023, spike jones via extropy-chat wrote:

> And what about the reverse? Have we adapted to love small fluffy things? Is it natures way, to protect the children of animals, to make them small and fluffy?
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> Best regards,
> Daniel
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> Entirely plausible Daniel.  Human evolution was likely influenced by our domestic beasts.  We came to rely on guard dogs, we used horses for transportation, mules and oxen for pulling plows, cattle for food, sheep for clothing and food.  No doubt all of these influenced the way humanity developed.

Fascinating to contemplate this bi-directional influence! Makes you
wonder if dogs + us will ever uplift thenselves? On a subjective level,
I certainly had moments with sheep dogs where they seemed very, very
uplifted although they were of course not expressing themselves with
words, but with sound and gestures.

Best regards, 
Daniel


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> On Wed, 20 Sep 2023, spike jones via extropy-chat wrote:
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>> Amazing stuff, ja?  That Nova on dogs proposes the theory that dogs 
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>> Williams-Beuren syndrome in humans.  If they are right, it explains a 
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>> For so long I wondered if dogs love us for food, or just love us.  I 
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>> his peoples.  Could he be a wolf with WBS?  I have met a human with 
>> that syndrome, and I do see the similarities with a dog’s personality 
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>> From: spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 September, 2023 7:52 AM
>> To: 'ExI chat list' <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> Cc: spike at rainier66.com
>> Subject: nova on dogs
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>> I have been a fan of Nova for most of my life (the TV series.)  I now 
>> get it on internet.
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>> The episode on dog domestication whacks it outta the park.  It answers 
>> some questions I have wondered about for some time, such as:
>> do dogs love us because we feed them, or do they love us because 
>> evolutionary psychology somehow created the brain circuitry for them 
>> to love us?
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