[ExI] Criticisms of Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI)
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efc at swisscows.email
Wed Sep 27 13:05:07 UTC 2023
Hello Jason,
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Jason Resch via extropy-chat wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Jason Resch wrote:
>
> > > I believe Alain Aspect's experiments demonstrating the EPR (spooky action, and violation of Bell's
> inequalities) have
> > been replicated
> > > numerous times. It just won the Nobel prize last year.
> >
> > But spooky action is just one phenomenon. It does not tell us anything
> > about which interpretation is true, or even, if there are other
> > interpretations yet to be made up, etc.
> >
> > It tells us one thing quite clearly:
> >
> > If relativity is true (i.e., nothing can travel faster than light) then measurements do not have single outcomes (i.e.,
> there are
> > many worlds).
>
> Well, I'd probably add "true as currently understood today".
>
> Perhaps both QM and Relativity are false. But if the only way for them to both be true is with MW.
Well, we only have four options here! ;) Time will tell!
> Maybe the Bell inequalities is the part that needs restatement? Sounds
> like a component in the logical chain that might or might not be
> susceptible to rethinking or revisioning.
>
> It is a purely mathematical result, written as a mathematical proof. This video explains it
> well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OM0jSTeeBg
> You do not need any advanced math, (just counting and factions), to be able to work out the proof for yourself. This video, a bit
> longer, shows how anyone could do this themself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RiAxvb_qI4 and see there is no way to get the
> observed correlations using hidden variables. You either need instantaneous communication or, you must give up the idea that
> experiments/observations only have single outcomes.
Thank you Jason, added to the list.
> > I didn't. Do you mean the extropolis list? I am not on it. Is it's archive online?
>
> Yes, that's the one. The thread is called Leggetts inequality. Have a
> look here:
> https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis/c/5I_zuthYMWQ/m/S6eyeePtAAAJ .
>
> Thanks, it is interesting.
You're welcome!
> > I have not read it. I think you are referring to "A New Kind of Science" ?
>
> Yes, that's the one. 1280 pages!
>
> Maybe AI will kindly summarize it for us. ;-)
It sure did a nice job (I hope!). ;)
Best regards,
Daniel
>
> Jason
>
>
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