[ExI] karp at reagan ndf

Darin Sunley dsunley at gmail.com
Wed Dec 11 05:47:50 UTC 2024


Have we considered the very realistic possibility that if it is at all
possible to build a shoggoth that consumes our entire future light cone,
that we have /already/ been consumed by a shoggoth someone else built?

Basic anthropic reasoning: we are in a lot more civilizations' future light
cones than are in ours.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 10:31 PM Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 5:45 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I have been listening to excerpts from Palantir CEO Dr. Alex Karp’s pitch
>> at the Reagan National Defense Forum.  It appears we are in exactly the
>> AI-related species death spiral Eliezer Yudkowsky has been foreseeing and
>> warning against for most of his life.  Every idea we thought of, everything
>> we tried, every post written, hoping to avert an AI arms race appears to
>> have failed.
>>
> Is it really surprising though?
>
> Maybe we've been thinking about it wrong.
>
> Now that the race is on, we need to be sure of the course.  If 1st place
> is the only place we are doomed and there's not much else to do but enjoy
> the last moments of a wild ride.  Otherwise, we may yet find second place
> is still quite an adventure.
>
> Oh I know the dystopian horror porn has been discussed ad nauseam.  Could
> we be just as imaginative with alternatives?
>
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