[ExI] Do you have a secret family pass phrase?

[efc at disroot.org]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2024, Keith Henson wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 2:56 AM efc--- via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, Keith Henson wrote:
>>
>>> The scientology cult tried this on me some years ago.  It did not
>>> work, but it came close.
>>
>> I have memories of those weirdoes.
>
> https://www.academia.edu/37893481/Sex_Drugs_and_Cults_An_evolutionary_psychology_perspective_on_why_and_how_cult_memes_get_a_drug_like_hold_on_people_and_what_might_be_done_to_mitigate_the_effects
>
> I tangled with them originally over their attempt to censor the net.
>
> After a short time, I started to wonder what was wrong with these
> people.  At about the same time I discovered evolutionary psychology
> In short, humans have evolved vulnerabilities to attention.  There is
> a sound evolutionary reason why people are highly rewarded by
> attention. Status is more or less integrated attention, and high
> status (at least in males) makes you more likely to be an ancestor.
> For some people, attention is as addicting as drugs.  And cults
> provide attention.

Makes a lot of sense. How hard is it to change these innate tendencies and 
behaviours?

> Keith
>
>> The first time I visited New York, I
>> must have been 11 or so, they had this tradition of having a TV on the
>> side walk. Being from sweden, I'd never seen that before and stopped to watch.
>>
>> After a few second some guy came up and started to talk with me, and soon
>> my father saw that and came to the rescue. Very weird people!
>>
>> The only recruiters I've met the past 2 decades are Jehovas witnesses
>> (they sent 3 photo models to my home early on a sunday morning.) and
>> mormons. The mormons often seem more afraid of me, than I of them, when we
>> start to discuss philosophy and they soon tire of the conversation. ;)
>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:43 PM efc--- via extropy-chat
>>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, BillK via extropy-chat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It only takes three seconds of audio content for AI to clone someone’s
>>>>> voice. And one call from a scammer to trick you into thinking a
>>>>> ‘friend’ needs money.
>>>>> Scammers will often use a method called spoofing, which is when they
>>>>> make a call or text look like it’s coming from someone you know.
>>>>> AI is making it too easy to fake videos, phone calls or texts.
>>>>
>>>> Actually I don't. The most common attack vector (currently) when it comes
>>>> to scams is to trick old people into using their digital ID:s to confirm
>>>> money transfers.
>>>>
>>>> I've forbidden my father to use digital ID, and only use the traditional
>>>> method of walking down to the bank office and physically show them his ID,
>>>> so should anyone try a scam, he is first of all very suspicious, and
>>>> second of all, nothing can be done by phone, and third, there's a natural
>>>> cool off period since he had to walk to the bank, and finally, I and the
>>>> bank will also have opportunities to say something.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to my wife and I, just the question of any transfers of any
>>>> kind would raise suspicion instantly so no code word there either.
>>>>
>>>>> BillK
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> You need to create a secret password with your family
>>>>> written by Elijah       December 25, 2024
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://whatsnew2day.com/you-need-to-create-a-secret-password-with-your-family/>
>>>>> Quotes:
>>>>> There have been increasing calls for people, and particularly
>>>>> families, to create passphrases or passwords for each other. In early
>>>>> December, the FBI issued a recommendation that people create a “secret
>>>>> word or phrase with their family to verify their identity,” and
>>>>> British bank Starling has also published guidelines on how to create
>>>>> safe phrases with other people. It’s a simple, if not new, approach
>>>>> that can be potentially effective. For example, if you receive a
>>>>> message or call from your “son” or “daughter” urgently asking for
>>>>> money to get out of a tight spot, asking them to provide a previously
>>>>> agreed-upon passphrase can reveal whether it is really them.
>>>>> -------------------------
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