[ExI] Do you have a secret family pass phrase?

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On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Keith Henson wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 3:55 AM efc--- via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2024, Keith Henson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 2:56 AM efc--- via extropy-chat
>>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, Keith Henson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The scientology cult tried this on me some years ago.  It did not
>>>>> work, but it came close.
>>>>
>>>> I have memories of those weirdoes.
>>>
>>> https://www.academia.edu/37893481/Sex_Drugs_and_Cults_An_evolutionary_psychology_perspective_on_why_and_how_cult_memes_get_a_drug_like_hold_on_people_and_what_might_be_done_to_mitigate_the_effects
>>>
>>> I tangled with them originally over their attempt to censor the net.
>>>
>>> After a short time, I started to wonder what was wrong with these
>>> people.  At about the same time I discovered evolutionary psychology
>>> In short, humans have evolved vulnerabilities to attention.  There is
>>> a sound evolutionary reason why people are highly rewarded by
>>> attention. Status is more or less integrated attention, and high
>>> status (at least in males) makes you more likely to be an ancestor.
>>> For some people, attention is as addicting as drugs.  And cults
>>> provide attention.
>>
>> Makes a lot of sense. How hard is it to change these innate tendencies and
>> behaviours?
>
> Consider the problems people have with addictive drugs.  Hard,
> sometimes impossible.  People do age out of this class of behavior.
> This makes sense, reproductive related behavior declines in importance
> as people get older.
>
> Eventually, MAGA will be considered a cult.  It's not new, the US has
> been swept with this general class of memes before.

This is very interesting! I just received my MAGA hat from the US last 
week, and I am using it by wearing it in town to test the strength of 
polarization and freedom of expression where I am. It has yielded a
fair amount of evil eyes, but no comments so far. I am very satisfied with this result!

> I suspect there is a big genetic component.  The Mormons trawled
> through Europe for those susceptible to cult memes.  Among the
> scientology cult members, my observation is that people with a Mormon
> background are overrepresented.
>
> Keith
>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>> The first time I visited New York, I
>>>> must have been 11 or so, they had this tradition of having a TV on the
>>>> side walk. Being from sweden, I'd never seen that before and stopped to watch.
>>>>
>>>> After a few second some guy came up and started to talk with me, and soon
>>>> my father saw that and came to the rescue. Very weird people!
>>>>
>>>> The only recruiters I've met the past 2 decades are Jehovas witnesses
>>>> (they sent 3 photo models to my home early on a sunday morning.) and
>>>> mormons. The mormons often seem more afraid of me, than I of them, when we
>>>> start to discuss philosophy and they soon tire of the conversation. ;)
>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:43 PM efc--- via extropy-chat
>>>>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, BillK via extropy-chat wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It only takes three seconds of audio content for AI to clone someone’s
>>>>>>> voice. And one call from a scammer to trick you into thinking a
>>>>>>> ‘friend’ needs money.
>>>>>>> Scammers will often use a method called spoofing, which is when they
>>>>>>> make a call or text look like it’s coming from someone you know.
>>>>>>> AI is making it too easy to fake videos, phone calls or texts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I don't. The most common attack vector (currently) when it comes
>>>>>> to scams is to trick old people into using their digital ID:s to confirm
>>>>>> money transfers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've forbidden my father to use digital ID, and only use the traditional
>>>>>> method of walking down to the bank office and physically show them his ID,
>>>>>> so should anyone try a scam, he is first of all very suspicious, and
>>>>>> second of all, nothing can be done by phone, and third, there's a natural
>>>>>> cool off period since he had to walk to the bank, and finally, I and the
>>>>>> bank will also have opportunities to say something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When it comes to my wife and I, just the question of any transfers of any
>>>>>> kind would raise suspicion instantly so no code word there either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BillK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>>>> You need to create a secret password with your family
>>>>>>> written by Elijah       December 25, 2024
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://whatsnew2day.com/you-need-to-create-a-secret-password-with-your-family/>
>>>>>>> Quotes:
>>>>>>> There have been increasing calls for people, and particularly
>>>>>>> families, to create passphrases or passwords for each other. In early
>>>>>>> December, the FBI issued a recommendation that people create a “secret
>>>>>>> word or phrase with their family to verify their identity,” and
>>>>>>> British bank Starling has also published guidelines on how to create
>>>>>>> safe phrases with other people. It’s a simple, if not new, approach
>>>>>>> that can be potentially effective. For example, if you receive a
>>>>>>> message or call from your “son” or “daughter” urgently asking for
>>>>>>> money to get out of a tight spot, asking them to provide a previously
>>>>>>> agreed-upon passphrase can reveal whether it is really them.
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