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[Keith Henson]

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 6:07 AM Paul Werbos <paul.werbos at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi, Keith!
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> I probably should have collected my own papers making connections across this complicated field, as we discussed in past years.

A huge project for you.  Not being an academic I have only a few papers.

> Certainly game theory is ONE crucial foundation, and you often rightly mention genetic

Agree.  Evolutionary psychology incorporates game theory as a
foundation element.  Lots of papers, particularly by Trivers  In
short, EP states that behavior is as much an outcome of evolution as
any physical trait. Expanding, every behavior is either directly
selected or a side effect of something that was selected.  Capture
bonding is one of the first class, easy to see how this was selected.
https://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Capture-bonding  The Patty Hearst
events are rare today, but they were common in the past to the point
the evolved psychological traits are nearly universal in humans.

It is important in EP to understand when and in what environment the
selection took place.  The Environment of Evolutionary Adaptiveness
(EEA) for capture-bonding was a long time ago.  The selection for the
traits leading to wealth in the U.K. (Gregory Clark's work) is more
recent, the selection only ending in about 1800.

Drug addiction is a side effect of the evolution of brain reward
systems.  There is no logical way it could be selected.

>> *IF* AIs make us wealthy, that might end wars.

The model shows a strong selection against psychological traits
for war when people anticipate a favorable future.

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> the one dealing with hard core physical reality, but I see few people interested in reality these days.)

True.  Or physical projects of any kind.

>> If you still have contacts with the IEEE power folks, we should talk.
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> I do. Just yesterday a key IEEE/PES person visited us here. I have been pulled away into other things, like my new patent
> https://patents.justia.com/patent/12118434 which addresses how "Schrodinger cats" can multiply power a million fold in
> all types of "deep learning," like optimizing nonconvex functions and network management problems which reduce to minimizing or maximizing nonconvex functions.
> HE is also distracted now by lots of promotion options... and he says it is time to look for a new leader
> of what I started under him years ago https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1acZRpjyjCLoQuqzJef74e0cmHeyoKJdr?usp=sharing.
> I cc the three people I think off, just now, as the most credible people I could think of right now. Veronika Rabl, in particular, was the leader for the section on
> refueling transportation, and is better connected with IEEEUSA now than I am, in part because I stepped on some nuclear toes.
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> But you and I and many other key people also have problems with aging lately (except for those who suffer from so much dementia that they blind themselves to that).
> There IS crucial new S&T to seriously reduce that problem, but the politics of allowing it are as complicated as space politics, maybe more, with just as many problems with conflicts of interest and vested interests.
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>> It is possible to use excess renewable energy, trash, coal, or other
>> sources of carbon to make syngas which can be made into jet fuel and
>> diesel.
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> werbos.com/oil.htm introduces another major thread of my life, which worked hard to do full justice to that. George Bush Junior
> got a law passed EISA which intended to maximize that, and the bill from Specter posted on my web site was designed to fix the regulations which
> destroyed EISA "in the dark of the night," the process of translating laws into regulations. The IEEE climate book needs a new leader, it seems,
> now that Mankins pulled out due to crazy complexities in space politics.

Power from space is a winner over ground PV when steady power reduces
the capital expenses of an industrial project like CO2 capture by a
factor of 3.

As far as I can see, I was the first to propose using intermittent
power for heat to make syngas.  No wonder, it is counterintuitive to
use expensive electrical power to make cheap hydrocarbons.  But if the
gasifiers are cheap enough, landfill trash is free, the excess power
is nearly free, and you can store the syngas, the economics work out
to make fuel cheaper than oil.

Spreading the concept to the technical people (and having it verified)
is the next step.  Not sure if a political stage is needed or if the
ideas should go directly to the oil companies who can process syngas
through F/T to make valuable products.

>> PS If you want to see how it all works out and think you might not
>> live into that era, consider cryonics.
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> Jose Cordeiro, a leader of the Millennium Project international network, claims that Milei of Argentina loves his book
> entitled something like "death to death." He got me invited many years ago to the big futurist meeting in Palo Alto hosted by NASA,
> when cryonics was already old hat and well understood by some of us. But there are much better options, much more human-centric,
> which is what we need.
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Radical life extension would be much better than cryonics, I agree.
So does Ray Kurzweil who has put some near-term dates on it.  But he
is still signed up for cryonics.

You never know when you will be run over by a turnip truck.  Please
sign up and let us know.

>> I signed up 40 years ago when it looked like human migration into
>> space would take longer than I had and nanotechnology provided a path
>> to make it work.
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Keith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Henson