[ExI] uploads and mariachi bands

[Ben Zaiboc]

On 13/02/2024 17:32, Tara Maya wrote:
> No one can have an experience at Will if the circumstances of that
> experience aren’t real; they can only have the illusion of an
> experience.
>
> You could recreate a memory or a fantasy of hearing a mariachi band but
> unless the band of other people were there, you’d not be experiencing
> the band itself only the simulacra of the band.
>
> A painting is not the thing it portrays.

Real? Define 'real', in this context.

Do you accept that we create the world that we experience? That each 
person builds a world from their sensory inputs, and for them, that is 
'the world'?

If so, then there is no problem, and an 'illusion' of an experience is 
the same thing as the experience.

If not, then you have to explain how we can apprehend the 'real' world 
without actually creating it in our own minds.

In this particular case, of minds, the map is the important thing, not 
the territory. We never, ever, experience the territory, just the map 
that we create in our own heads (built from many sensory and memory 
inputs). The painting is all we ever know about. What it portrays is 
forever beyond our reach. A high-quality reproduction of the painting is 
just as good as the original painting, in every respect.

Therefore, experiencing a simulacrum of a mariachi band is identical to 
'really' experiencing the band. 'Reality' is what we create in our heads.

Ben
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