[ExI] Early Archives... Re: Yudkowsky ‘Humanity’s remaining timeline? It looks more like five years than 50’

Keith Henson hkeithhenson at gmail.com
Thu Feb 22 17:03:24 UTC 2024


On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:37 AM MB via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you all for considering archiving.  Best to get things moved to more
> up-to-date media before it is impossible to read floppies - I mean, who
> has a floppy drive?

I do.  About 20 years ago I was bugged by being tagged as the
originator of the Jupiter brain.  I found the original post on a
floppy and it was from Perry Metzger. I responded by throwing cold
water on the idea due to the speed of light making such a brain slower
than humans.  Didn't help, still got associated with the silly idea.

> How to attach it to a modern system? (Not to mention,
> is bit-rot still "a thing"?)
>
> We're always going on here about "loss" when someone dies.  When a list
> (or big part of it) dies, that can be a major loss too...  Robert
> Bradbury, Sasha, Zero, Damein, Barbara, Eugene, Waldemar, Greg, Mike,
> Harvey .......... and what ever happened to EvMick?

I would put the archive up, but it is close to useless.  I don't know
why, but a search does not work on it.

I guess it would take about $70k of labor to make it useful.

Keith

> Regards,
> MB
>
> On Thu, February 22, 2024 10:54, Keith Henson via extropy-chat wrote:
> > The only person who made noise about list privacy in those days was
> > Perry Metzger and I have email from him asking that the list be made
> > public.
> >
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:41 AM Max More via extropy-chat
> > <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>  I have a lot of the early archives on floppy disks – old folks here
> >> might recall those non-floppy floppies. (A brief era following stone
> >> tablets.) I think I have maybe everything from 1993-94. Given the
> >> private nature of the early list, I'm not sure about sharing these with
> >> those who weren't on the list.
> >>
> >> --Max
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> on behalf of
> >> MB via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2024 8:23 AM
> >> To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> >> Cc: MB <mbb386 at main.nc.us>
> >> Subject: [ExI] Early Archives... Re: Yudkowsky ‘Humanity’s remaining
> >> timeline? It looks more like five years than 50’
> >>
> >> Keith,
> >>
> >> It would be a plus to share those archives with someone on the list
> >> (*not*
> >> me!) - like John Klos, or spike or ExIMod, someone who will preserve
> >> them
> >> besides you.  Just something to consider.  :)
> >>
> >> Be Well!
> >> Regards,
> >> MB
> >>
> >> On Tue, February 20, 2024 20:50, Keith Henson via extropy-chat wrote:
> >>
> >> > PS.  I have the early archives of Extropy Chat, but they are had to
> >> > access.
> >> >
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