[ExI] Open Individualism

sjatkins sjatkins at protonmail.com
Sat Jan 6 05:10:26 UTC 2024




On Thursday, January 4th, 2024 at 7:28 PM, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:


> On 04/01/2024 16:29, BillK wrote:
> 

> > open individualism posits that all individuals are
> > fundamentally connected at the level of consciousness. From this
> > perspective, you and I are not separate individuals with distinct
> > identities but rather manifestations of the same underlying
> > consciousness or awareness.
> 

> 

> Hm. If this is so, then why is there no experience of it? I certainly don't experience any consciousness but my own. Can anyone claim otherwise?
> 

> I don't see how all individuals (or even just two) can possibly be 'connected at the level of consciousness' without being conscious of it. The conclusion is that we must be separate individuals with distinct identities, or we would all be aware that this was not the case. This seems to describe a 'hive mind', and we are definitely not that.
> 

> Ben


Well, that's the thing.  When you are aware of it you are not aware of the separate individual state.  When you are not you are aware of the being a separate individual.  But there is no place for assuming one or the other state is the only one that can be experienced.
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