[ExI] Zuckerberg is democratizing the singularity

[Keith Henson]

On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 4:09 PM ilsa via extropy-chat
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> https://terasemjournals.net/GNJournal/GN0202/henson1.html
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> This the clinic seed that you're referring?

Yes.  I think it holds up fairly well, though it is set in the 2040s.

Keith

> Smile, ilsa
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> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024, 3:51 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> Bill, it just does not matter.  We are going to get super smart AI
>> sooner or later.
>>
>> AI should be able to do lots of good things as well as possibly being
>> a danger.  Might as well get it sooner and enjoy the benefits.
>>
>> Have you ever read "The Clinic Seed."  That is about Suskulan, a very
>> friendly AI, which has the effect of biological extinction for the
>> people it serves (but nobody dies).
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 2:51 AM BillK via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> > On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 at 09:56, Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat
>> > <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > <snip>
>> > >
>> > > I agree that safety is critical. And now that open source is driving its
>> > > development, it will be safer for everybody, and not just the chosen few
>> > > that control it. AI-controlled weapons are already killing people in
>> > > Ukraine and Gaza. It is possible that an AGI will be less inclined to
>> > > kill some humans at the behest of other humans. After all, the AI won't
>> > > have all the instinctual primate baggage of predation, dominance, and
>> > > hierarchy driving its behavior.
>> > >
>> > > Stuart LaForge
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > To me (in the UK) that sounds very much like an American saying that
>> > giving everybody guns will be safer for everybody, and not just for
>> > the chosen few allowed to have guns.
>> > The big danger is that the world will end up with an AI problem that is very
>> > similar to the USA gun violence problem.
>> >
>> > <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqqelzgq17o>
>> > Quote:
>> > Since 2020, guns have been the leading cause of death for children and
>> > younger Americans.
>> > And the death rate from guns is 11.4 times higher in the US, compared
>> > to 28 other high-income countries, making the issue a uniquely
>> > American problem.
>> > ----------------
>> >
>> > This danger applies to the current AI development phase when every cyber
>> > criminal is stealing billions worldwide and using every tool in the
>> > book to threaten businesses worldwide.
>> > You can hope that an all-powerful AGI might make its own decisions and put
>> > a stop to all the criminal uses of AI.  But if we don't control the
>> > misuse of AI during development, we could end up with a criminal /
>> > fascist / insane AGI.
>> >
>> > BillK
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