[ExI] AI Warfare Is Already Here

[William Flynn Wallace]

the brass would argue that deployment and battlefield testing is the
path to knowing more than we do now.  spike

This suggests that a company who develops a product they don't know will be
used safely, should just release it to the public and count the injuries
and deaths.   It also depends on your values - those products which are
protected by plastic so tough you need an axe to get into suggests that
preventing stealing is more important than personal injuries.  bill w


On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 6:51 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of
> BillK via extropy-chat
> Subject: Re: [ExI] AI Warfare Is Already Here
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> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 12:47, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> > Y'know?  Here's an awful thought: I wish that an AI in actual combat
> makes
> a mistake and kills civilians.  Maybe that will be the spur to quit the
> damn
> things until we know a lot more than we do now.  Never mind that a human
> makes the final decision - people make mistakes too.  I am assured by
> history that military minds will rush new tech into use before we are ready
> for it.
> >
> > Maybe I don't actually wish it, but it WILL happen - and then we'll see.
> bill w
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> >...In war, it is always far more civilians that die than soldiers.
> Look at Gaza, Hiroshima, Dresden or the famines and deprivation that follow
> war.
> I don't see that a few civilian deaths (collateral damage) will stop the
> military deploying AI weaponry.
>
> BillK
>
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> Civilian deaths might drive the military in deploying AI weaponry: they
> will
> argue that AI is better at distinguishing and avoiding collateral damage
> than humans.  That argument may compel them to take humans out of the loop:
> we are too slow and influenced too much by fear, panic, hatred, etc.
>
> Regarding the notion to quit the damn things until we know more than we do
> now, the brass would argue that deployment and battlefield testing is the
> path to knowing more than we do now.
>
> spike
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