[ExI] Communications a Moore's Law Phenomenon?

[efc at swisscows.email]

Hello Kelly,

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Kelly Anderson via extropy-chat wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 12:11 PM efc--- via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 12:50 PM Kelly Anderson via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> My take on it is probably twofold. First how much do I care about the
>> person writing, and second, how much do I care about the topic of
>> discussion.
>>
>> The less I care about the person, the less attention the message will
>> get in what ever channel it might come through. And likewise, the less I
>> care about the subject, the less attention the message gets.
>>
>> This is then applied within three circles, my private world, business
>> world and the rest.
>
> This circle of concerns model that begins at intimates, then
> acquaintances and finally strangers is pretty familiar. Perhaps our AI
> agents will bring our direct attention selectively to those we most
> care for or have responsibility for.

Yes, wouldn't that be something! An AI that can't reach me, reaches out
to my wife with the message "Hey, this would be great for your husband!"
and then she tells me. Quite a trojan horse! ;)

>
>> In terms of a potential AI communicating for us, I see it as a firewall
>> blocking/dealing with annoying things such as salesmen, booking
>> meetings, booking travel, reservations, getting through to support via
>> phone/chats etc.
>
> And yet, talking to salespeople can be helpful to your endeavors, if
> they turn out to have something we actually need. An AI agent could

Sadly those sales people are so few and far in between that I'll take
the loss of them. Granted, there are a few sales people who are
brilliant, but I am sure they will find other ways of interacting with
me.

Most sales people I meet are just annoying. But yes, you are right, the
ones who are good are worth their weight in gold.

> have that conversation for us, assumedly with the AIs working for the
> salesmen. I kind of like that because it means that companies that
> produce good products, but aren't good at more traditional marketing
> will be more likely to get my attention. If the best products end up
> getting my business instead of the companies that are best at
> marketing, then that seems like it would lubricate the economy like a
> higher quality oil would lubricate an engine better.

True. From an ideal point of view that would definitely be the case.
Today, I hear about those companies by word of mouth and at industry
networking events. Very seldom, if ever, did I pick up a new product or
company through regular commercials.

On the other hand, I block all ads online, so the ads that do slip
through are product placements in blogs, mailinglists, friends etc.

>> Likewise I see these recipients to have their own AI:s, so we'd have
>> AI:s negotiating/booking times with teach other, and we would only end
>> up seeing the result.
>
> Yes, just so.

That would be the day! Imagine just telling your AI, I want this trip,
my wife wants to see these things, the maximum cost is this much, and
here's when we want to travel, and have a service that's good enough, to
give you peace of mind enough, to trust it and just get a finished trip
back.

>> When it comes to the amount of messages I have two strategies for
>> dealing with the quantity:
>>
>> 1. Carefully choosing my channels and not exposing my email address
>> where it is not supposed to be.
>>
>> 2. Automated sorting and replying to some emails.
>>
>> I'm no super user, but my methods were able to successfully deal with
>> 250-300 emails per day during my peak in the global IT industry.
>
> So back around 2003, I created a company called Habit 3 software
> (after the third Habit of Steven Covey's famous 7, namely, "Put first
> things first.") that intended to create an email client that sorted
> email in order of importance. I got it working fairly well using what
> passed for AI at the time... multiple heuristics... but eventually
> abandoned the project because gmail looked like it might go in that
> direction. It never did, and I regret abandoning the project now.
> Anyway, within that program, I also had a concept of "Roles" so that
> if you were in the "Role" of "scoutmaster", scout's emails would

Interesting. Roles would be equivalent to what I have different email
accounts for.

> bubble to the top, but if you were in the Role of "Dad" then your
> kid's emails would bubble to the top. The idea was to set a specific
> amount of time on each role each day, and address the most important
> things to that role first, and keep track of what kind of time was
> spent on each role, so that you could properly prioritize your time.
> Having an AI automatically answer low priority emails in such a system

I no longer get 250-300 emails per day, so today I do glance through
mail manually when deciding which ones to work on and reply to first.
But nice concept though, not even having to do that. =)

> would be a nice addition these days. I was talked out of marketing
> this product to work on another project that was even cooler. That
> particular project didn't go terribly well, even though it would still
> be cool today. The government ruins almost as many things as religion.

Of course... hence the age old saying "we're from the government and
we're here to help"... shudder!

Best regards, 
Daniel


> -Kelly
>
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