[ExI] Birthrate falling worldwide - not just in the developed nations

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 25 13:45:36 UTC 2024


2.5 children - in Canada's upper class.  1.5 children in the lower class

another statistic - 1.25 children per couple

Hard to reconcile these statistics, but in any case the upper classes are
having children above replacement rate and the lower classes are far from
it.  Yes, bring on the AI robots.   The overall intelligence should rise,
eh?   bill w

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:10 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Is it perhaps the case that exploited laborers, seeing their kids no more
> able to provide than they are (and thus not seeing that kids are the
> traditional retirement plan any more) and/or being squeezed for short term
> (usually less than 5 years') gains, are less willing to take the
> traditional burden of raising children?
>
> If so, will the future belong to those nations that deploy in mass scale,
> pro-natalist policies and technologies, essentially treating child raising
> as one of those community expenses like firefighting and road maintenance?
>
> If so, would any large nation over the next 20 years see the development
> of human cloning and/or nannybot & teacherbot AIs - to help nudge to a
> future where the majority of children are primarily raised by (and in
> particular, at the expense of) the state rather than any one or two
> individuals - as a vital national interest?
>
> Is this a future that the reactionaries who presently dominate the US
> Republican party dread, knowing that however much they try to corrupt state
> sponsored education, the inevitable efficiencies will propel most students
> to see through their lies and refuse to go along with an unchanging
> reactionary (and possibly theocratic) government?
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 7:41 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Fewer babies are being born around the world, and not only in the
>> places you’d expect
>> John Ibbitson        Published October 17, 2024
>>
>> <
>> https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/opinion/article-fertility-rates-developing-countries-globally/
>> >
>> Quotes:
>> There has been a great deal of commentary on falling fertility rates
>> in developed countries – including Canada, which has seen its birth
>> rate drop from 1.6 children per woman to 1.26 in less than a decade.
>>
>> But not enough attention is being paid to an even more dramatic
>> phenomenon: the collapse, in just the past few years, of fertility
>> rates in developing countries.
>>
>> Even those of us who have been predicting, in defiance of United
>> Nations estimates, that the global population will peak mid-century
>> and then begin to decline didn’t expect to see the numbers plunging
>> like this. The accelerating collapse of birth rates in the developing
>> world is nothing less than astonishing.
>> ----------
>> We can debate the environmental benefits, economic costs and
>> geopolitical implications of global population decline. But one thing
>> is beyond debate: It’s coming at us faster than anybody thought.
>> --------------------------------
>>
>> Hmmm.  Soon there will not be enough workers to tax to pay pensions.
>> Those robots better get working soon!
>>
>> BillK
>>
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