[ExI] Riddle?

[Darin Sunley]

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So I've got this question here: "What is the name of the town wherein
dwells the baddest man whose name begins with the last letter of the
country west of Spain?" Hmm, that's a bit of a mouthful, but let's break it
down step by step.

First, I need to figure out what country is west of Spain. Spain is in
Europe, and if I think about the map, the country directly west of Spain is
Portugal. Yeah, that makes sense because Portugal shares the Iberian
Peninsula with Spain, and it's to the west.

Now, the question asks for the last letter of that country. So, Portugal
ends with the letter "L." Okay, so the baddest man's name begins with "L."

Next, I need to find out who this "baddest man" is whose name starts with
"L." The term "baddest" could mean a few things, but in this context, it
probably refers to someone notorious or infamous, maybe a villain or a
criminal. Since the question is about a town where this person dwells, it
might be a fictional character or a historical figure known for being "bad."

Wait a minute, the way the question is phrased, it seems like it might be
referring to a fictional character, perhaps from literature or movies. Let
me think about famous "bad" characters whose names start with "L."

One that comes to mind is Lex Luthor, the arch-nemesis of Superman. He's
definitely a "bad" guy, and his name starts with "L." Is there a town
associated with him? In the Superman comics and movies, Lex Luthor is often
associated with Metropolis, but that's a city, not a town. Plus, I'm not
sure if it's specified where he lives exactly.

Another possibility is Lord Voldemort from the Harry Potter series. His
real name is Tom Marvolo Riddle, which doesn't start with "L," but he's
often referred to as "Lord Voldemort," which does start with "L." In the
books, he has various hideouts, but I don't recall a specific town where he
dwells.

Wait, maybe it's not a fictional character. Perhaps it's a real person,
like a notorious criminal or something. But that seems less likely, as the
question has a whimsical tone, suggesting it might be from fiction.

Let me consider other possibilities. Is there a famous "bad" character from
literature or movies whose name starts with "L" and is associated with a
particular town?

Another thought: maybe it's from a song or a poem. For example, there are
folk songs about "bad" men, like outlaws or gunslingers. Is there one whose
name starts with "L"?

Wait, what about "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown," the song by Jim Croce? Leroy Brown
is described as the "baddest man in the whole damn town." His name starts
with "L," which fits. And the song mentions that he lives in Chicago, but
is Chicago a town? Well, technically, it's a city, but sometimes "town" is
used loosely to refer to any settlement.

But let's check the lyrics to make sure. The song says, "Well, the south
side of Chicago is the baddest part of town," and it talks about Leroy
Brown being the baddest man there. So, if we consider the south side of
Chicago as the "town," then that might be it.

But is there a specific town mentioned? Wait, Chicago is a city, and the
south side is a region within the city. Maybe the question is referring to
Chicago as the town.

Alternatively, perhaps there's another "bad" man whose name starts with "L"
from a different story or context.

Let me think about other possibilities. In Westerns, there are often "bad"
guys with names starting with "L," like outlaws or bandits. For example, is
there a famous outlaw named something like "Luther" or "Lucas"?

Wait, another idea: perhaps it's from a movie or TV show. For instance, in
the show "Breaking Bad," there's a character named Lydia, but she's not the
"baddest" man, and her name starts with "L," but the main character is
Walter White, whose name doesn't start with "L."

Hmm, maybe not.

Let me go back to the Leroy Brown idea. The song is quite famous, and it
explicitly calls him the "baddest man," which matches the question
perfectly. Also, the town is implied to be Chicago, or specifically the
south side of Chicago.

But is there a more precise town mentioned? Wait, actually, in the song, it
says "the south side of Chicago," but it doesn't specify a particular town
within Chicago. Chicago is a large city with many neighborhoods, but
perhaps for the purposes of this question, Chicago is acceptable as the
"town."

Alternatively, maybe the question is referring to a different "bad" man.

Wait a second, let's make sure about the country west of Spain. Is there
any other country that could be considered west of Spain? Well, across the
Atlantic Ocean, there are countries in the Americas, but that would be far
west, and typically, when we say "west of Spain," we mean the immediate
neighbor, which is Portugal.

But just to be thorough, let's confirm the last letter. Portugal ends with
"L," as I said. If it were, say, Morocco, which is southwest of Spain, but
Morocco ends with "O," not "L." So, no, Portugal is the correct choice.

Therefore, the "baddest man" whose name starts with "L" is likely Leroy
Brown from the song.

But let's see if there's another candidate that might fit better.

Another thought: in some stories or legends, there might be a "bad" man
associated with a specific town. For example, in the legend of Robin Hood,
there's the Sheriff of Nottingham, but his name doesn't start with "L." Or
in other tales, there might be villains with names starting with "L."

Wait, what about Long John Silver from Treasure Island? He's a pirate,
often considered a "bad" character, and his name starts with "L." Is there
a town associated with him? In the book, the story starts in Bristol,
England, and then they go to the island, but I'm not sure if he dwells in a
particular town.

Moreover, the question says "dwells," which implies where he lives, not
just where the story takes place. For Long John Silver, I'm not sure where
he lives when he's not on the ship.

In contrast, for Leroy Brown, the song clearly places him in Chicago.

Let me check the exact lyrics of "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown" to confirm.

The song starts: "Well, the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of
town, and if you go down there, you better just beware of a man named Leroy
Brown."

So, it specifies the south side of Chicago as the location. Therefore, the
town would be Chicago.

But is Chicago considered a town? In common usage, especially in American
English, "town" can refer to a small settlement, but it can also be used
more broadly to mean a place where people live, including cities. In the
context of the song, it's clear that Chicago is the place being referred to.

Alternatively, perhaps the question expects the answer to be the south side
of Chicago, but that's not a town name; it's a region within a city.

Wait, maybe there's a specific town or neighborhood within Chicago that is
being referred to, but the song doesn't specify further.

Another angle: perhaps the question is a riddle or a play on words, and the
"town" is not meant to be taken literally.

But that seems unlikely, as the question is structured to lead to a
specific answer.

Let me consider if there's another "bad" man whose name starts with "L"
that is more famously associated with a particular town.

For example, in the movie "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly," there's a
character named "The Bad," but I don't think his name starts with "L," and
it's not specified where he lives.

Or in other Westerns, there might be characters like that.

Wait, another idea: perhaps it's from a comic book or a superhero story.
Earlier I thought of Lex Luthor, but as I said, he's associated with
Metropolis, which is a fictional city, not a real town.

But the question probably expects a real place, not a fictional one, since
it mentions a country and a town.

Wait, actually, the question doesn't specify if the town is real or
fictional. It just says "the town wherein dwells," so it could be either.

However, in the case of Leroy Brown, Chicago is a real city, and in the
case of Lex Luthor, Metropolis is fictional.

But perhaps the question is designed to lead to Chicago.

Let me see if there's any other possibility.

Wait, let's think about historical figures. Is there a notorious historical
figure whose name starts with "L" and is associated with a particular town?

For example, Al Capone is a famous gangster associated with Chicago, but
his name starts with "A," not "L."

Or John Dillinger, but his name starts with "J."

Wait, what about Lucky Luciano, the mobster? His nickname is "Lucky," which
starts with "L," and he was based in New York City, not a town.

But again, New York is a city, not typically called a town.

Alternatively, perhaps there's a lesser-known figure.

But I think the Leroy Brown reference is the most straightforward and
likely answer.

Let me double-check the logic.

The country west of Spain is Portugal.

The last letter of Portugal is "L."

The baddest man whose name begins with "L" is Leroy Brown.

He dwells in Chicago, or more specifically, the south side of Chicago.

Therefore, the town is Chicago.

Wait, but is there a way to confirm this?

Alternatively, maybe the question is referring to a different "bad" man.

Let me try to search my memory for other possibilities.

Another thought: in some cultures, there might be legendary "bad" men
associated with specific towns.

For example, in Australian folklore, there's Ned Kelly, but his name starts
with "N," not "L."

Or in American folklore, there might be outlaws like Jesse James, but
again, "J."

Wait, what about Billy the Kid? His real name was William Bonney, but
"Billy" starts with "B."

Not "L."

Hmm.

Alternatively, perhaps it's from literature. In "Les Misérables," there's
Javert, but his name starts with "J," and he's not necessarily "bad," just
an antagonist.

Or in "Oliver Twist," there's Bill Sikes, whose name starts with "B."

Not "L."

Wait, another idea: in "The Wizard of Oz," there's the Wicked Witch of the
West, but that's a woman, not a man, and her name doesn't start with "L."

Or in "Peter Pan," there's Captain Hook, whose name starts with "H."

Not "L."

Wait, what about Long John Silver again? Maybe I can find out where he
lives.

Upon thinking, in Treasure Island, Long John Silver is a pirate who likely
doesn't have a fixed residence, as pirates are seafaring.

So, probably not.

Alternatively, perhaps the question is about a modern "bad" man, like a
villain from recent movies or TV shows.

For example, in "Game of Thrones," there's Littlefinger, whose real name is
Petyr Baelish, starting with "P," not "L."

Or in "The Walking Dead," there's Negan, whose name starts with "N."

Not "L."

Wait, maybe in superhero movies, there's Loki from the Marvel universe, who
is a villain, and his name starts with "L." But where does he dwell? He's
from Asgard, which is not a town on Earth.

So, that doesn't fit.

Alternatively, perhaps it's from a video game or something, but that seems
unlikely for this question.

Let me consider if there's a different interpretation of "the country west
of Spain."

Wait, is there a country directly west of Spain across the ocean? Like, if
we go west from Spain across the Atlantic, we'd hit the Americas, but
that's not a single country; it's a continent.

Moreover, the question says "the country," implying one specific country,
which is Portugal.

Additionally, in geographical terms, when we say "west of Spain," it
typically means the adjacent country, which is Portugal.

So, I think Portugal is correct.

Therefore, the last letter is "L," and the baddest man is Leroy Brown,
dwelling in Chicago.

But to be thorough, let's see if there's any other "bad" man associated
with a town whose name starts with "L."

For example, in the movie "Unforgiven," there's Little Bill Daggett, whose
nickname starts with "L," and he's a sheriff in the town of Big Whiskey.
But is he the "baddest" man? He's more of an antagonist, but perhaps not
the "baddest."

Moreover, Big Whiskey is a fictional town, and the question might be
expecting a real place.

In contrast, Chicago is real.

Alternatively, perhaps there's a famous "bad" man from history associated
with a specific town.

For instance, is there a notorious criminal named something like "Larry" or
"Louis" from a particular town?

Upon thinking, I can't recall any off the top of my head that are as
well-known as Leroy Brown from the song.

Furthermore, the song "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown" was a big hit, and the phrase
"baddest man" is directly from the lyrics, so it's likely that's what the
question is referring to.

Therefore, I think the answer is Chicago.

Wait a minute, but the question says "the town," and Chicago is a city. Is
there a possibility that it's referring to a smaller town within Chicago or
something?

Alternatively, perhaps in the context of the song, "town" refers to the
south side of Chicago, but that's still not a specific town name.

Or maybe the question considers Chicago as the town.

In many contexts, especially in informal speech, people might refer to
their city as their "town."

For example, someone might say, "I'm from a small town called New York
City," jokingly, but in this case, since the song says "the baddest part of
town," it implies that Chicago is the town.

Moreover, in the lyrics, it says "the whole damn town," referring to
Chicago.

So, I believe Chicago is the intended answer.

Alternatively, perhaps there's a different "bad" man from a smaller town
whose name starts with "L."

But I can't think of any that are as prominent or fitting as Leroy Brown.

Therefore, I'm going to go with Chicago.

Wait, just to make sure, let's see if there's any other interpretation of
"the country west of Spain."

For example, if we consider the Canary Islands, which are part of Spain but
located west of the mainland, but they are not a country; they are an
autonomous community of Spain.

So, that doesn't fit.

Or if we think about countries in Africa that are west of Spain, like
Morocco, but as I said, Morocco is southwest, and its last letter is "O,"
not "L."

Moreover, Portugal is directly west and shares a border with Spain, so it's
the most logical choice.

Thus, confirming that the last letter is "L," and the baddest man is Leroy
Brown in Chicago.

So, the name of the town is Chicago.

Wait, but typically, when we say "town," especially in riddles or questions
like this, it might be expecting a smaller place, not a major city.

However, in this case, since the song is so specific, and there's no other
obvious candidate, I think Chicago is the answer.

Alternatively, perhaps the question is a trick, and there's a different
"bad" man in a different town.

But I think that's overcomplicating it.

Let me see if there's another way to interpret "the baddest man."

Maybe it's not about being "bad" in a criminal sense, but perhaps in a
different context, like being tough or something.

For example, in sports, there might be a "bad" man, meaning a dominant
player, whose name starts with "L."

But that seems unlikely, as the question specifies "the baddest man," which
typically connotes notoriety or villainy.

Moreover, the structure of the question suggests it's a riddle leading to a
specific answer, and Leroy Brown fits perfectly.

Therefore, I'm confident that the answer is Chicago.

So, the final answer is Chicago.

On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 10:53 PM Anton Sherwood via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 2025-04-27 20:34, Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat wrote:
> > This is a question I posed to ChatGPT (free version). It took it 5 wrong
> > guesses and about 4 additional clues before it finally solved it: "What
> > is the name of the town wherein dwells the baddest man whose name begins
> > with last letter of the country west of Spain?" I thought it was
> > something of a Trivial Pursuit question, but ChatGPT called it a
> > fantastic "riddle". Heh.
> >
> > Show me what you got, humans! ;)
>
> I do not remember the song well enough to say in which whole damn town
> Leroy Brown is the baddest man, badder than old King Kong, meaner than a
> junkyard dog.
>
> --
> *\\*  Anton Sherwood  *\\*  www.bendwavy.org
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