[ExI] immortal

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Sun Aug 3 23:28:04 UTC 2025


On Sun, Aug 3, 2025 at 4:58 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2025, 3:21 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2025 at 1:35 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> > we should reach the best physically possible technology within 200 years at current rates
>>
>> I see no possible justification for that claim.  The best physically
>> possible technology is, by definition, unknown until we possess it.
>
> Physical constants provide right upper bounds on the best physically possible computers.

For a given architecture, perhaps.  But the constraints on traditional
electronics are not exactly the same as the constraints on photonic
computers, neither are exactly the same as the constraints on quantum
computers, and none of them are exactly the same as the constraints on
some architecture we have yet to discover or invent.  You implicitly
rule out any possibility of that last category without proof; based on
historical evidence, you are probably no more correct in doing so than
for someone in the 1930s to declare that the limits of vacuum tubes
dictated the limits of the best physically possible computers.

> So it will take another 112 doublings of current computer speed to get there. Over the past century the trend has been fairly consistent of computing technology doubling roughly every 18 - 24 months

Even if we were to constrain ourselves to traditional electronics,
Moore's Law has been pointed out as not necessarily holding steady -
and it's been an economic law, not a physical one.



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