[ExI] Superposition of Vacuum States

BillK pharos at gmail.com
Wed Dec 17 10:37:33 UTC 2025


On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 at 09:53, Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmWPAHcnKk
>
> <snip>
>
> Now Penrose's twist is that you solve the equations for the very same
> experiment in a rocket ship accelerating at 1 g, then you get the same
> wavefunction but with a different complex phase coefficient in front of
> it. This requires the two situations occur in different vacuums with
> different ground state energies. This puts the equivalence principle of
> GR and the superposition principle of QM into direct opposition, since
> you can't have a superposition of vacuum energies in QM. (Except maybe
> in a multiverse? Does an ontological universal wavefunction rescue one
> or both principles?)
>
> Stuart LaForge
> _______________________________________________
>

I asked Gemini AI to review this video.
Full discussion here: <https://gemini.google.com/share/1a453179c016>
BillK

Gemini 3 Pro Thinking -
*Summary*

The video argues that the incompatibility of QM and GR isn't just a matter
of finding the right "graviton" particle; it is a deep logical conflict
where the *linearity of QM forbids the non-linear vacuum structures
required by GR*. Gorard suggests that advanced mathematics,
specifically *Infinity
Category Theory*, might be the necessary language to unify them.

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I then asked Gemini  - Could the multiverse solve this conflict?

Gemini 3 Pro Thinking -

Based on the video and the views of the physicist discussed (Roger
Penrose), the short answer is: *No, Penrose actually uses this argument to
try to disprove the multiverse.*

*Summary*

   -

   *Penrose:* The conflict proves the Multiverse is impossible; gravity
   destroys the other branches.
   -

   *Gorard/Modern Theory:* The conflict might be solved by redefining
   "time" using Higher Category Theory, which could allow a Multiverse to
   exist mathematically.

This video is relevant because it details the specific "illegal
superposition" argument Penrose uses to attack the concept of a quantum
multiverse in the presence of gravity.

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