[ExI] why do we still need mainstream news media?

[John Clark]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 8:01 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:



> *> Nick Shirley brought this situation to the attention of the masses.*


*And the mainstream media, which you despise so much, brought this
situation to the attention of Nick Shirley*

* > **Others discovered this corruption before he did, but apparently
> failed to post it where there was a lot of audience,*


*CBS and ABC aired new stories about it and posted articles about it on
their websites nearly a year before Nick Shirley said anything about it. *

*> Now something is happening. *


*What did Nick Shirley cause to happen that was not happening before?  *

*> That would be an interesting experiment: see if mainstream news people
> can compete with MrBeast and amateur news people like Nick Shirley. *


*MrBeast doesn't do political stuff, and Nick Shirley can't afford to hire
a team of investigative reporters, nor would he be interested in any story
unless it made the Republicans look good or made the Democrats look bad.
And if Nick Shirley is anything like his hero, Mr. I Reduce Drug Prices By
1600%, he wouldn't be interested at all in making sure that he got his
facts right. *


*John K Clark*





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> *Did MrBeast do a story on it and post it?    Nick Shirley brought this
> situation to the attention of the masses.  Others discovered this
> corruption before he did, but apparently failed to post it where there was
> a lot of audience, which is TwitterX.  Now something is happening.  *
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> *The mainstream news people need to go where the audience is.  They don’t
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> news people compete with everyone else for audience.  That would be an
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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] why do we still need mainstream news media?
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> On Mon, Dec 29, 2025, 9:27 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>  A 23 yr old amateur found what the mainstream news media would never talk
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>  Note this video was has 121 million views in four days:
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> https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123
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>  So why do we still need mainstream news?
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> >... to measure their spin as a point of reference for other streams?
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> I am not sure I understand that comment, but if an amateur investigative
> journalist can do all this, I no longer see any useful function of the
> professional news people.
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> >…Or wait, didja mean production of mainstream media?
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> >… If there were no MSM, there would still be mainstream 'views' as in +/-
> 1 STDEV from the distribution of all views available…
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> OK but… they cost a lot of money to produce.  Amateurs can produce stories
> like that link, for almost nothing, and the viewership is thru the roof,
> something 60 Minutes could only dream of.
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> This one guy has blown the lid off of this story, which has been around
> for a long time, several years.  Reporters wrote about it, but nothing
> happened.  Now… one video, 120 million views in four days.
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> >…but I guess it's still easier to track the fewer MSM programming
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> The viewer count is still going up more than a million views per hour.
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> Advertisers paying for those MSM channels are seeing this and asking
> themselves why they are wasting money on the establishment.  This was a
> turning point.  Now… we collectively realize why TwitterX is so valuable,
> waaaaay more than the paltry 45 billion it sold for recently.  That place
> is now the world’s newspapers, the world’s news television.  There is no
> further reason to bother with mainstream media, none.  The citizen reporter
> vision has become reality.
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