[ExI] Mono or Poly?
efc at disroot.org
efc at disroot.org
Mon Feb 24 19:01:25 UTC 2025
On Mon, 24 Feb 2025, BillK via extropy-chat wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 at 17:34, efc--- via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025, BillK via extropy-chat wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 at 10:51, Jason Resch via extropy-chat
>>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>> Using the example of past systems, (with which we have some experience), consider:
>>>> Which of the following systems are preferred, and what about the preferred option makes it a better than the alternative?
>>>>
>>>> - dictatorships vs. democracies
>>>> - centralized systems vs. distributed systems
>>>> - monocrops vs. biodiversity
>>>> - central banks vs. blockchains
>>>> - monopolies vs. markets
>>>>
>>>> Then consider how many of those advantages and disadvantages carry over and apply to:
>>>> - AI singletons vs. AI communities
>>>>
>>>> The question is then: "Do we have the ability to engineer one outcome vs. the other?"
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> While one or the other may be a preferred option, options are a human problem.
>>> In human history, where these options exist, the result is almost
>>> always terrible conflicts where one option tries to destroy the other
>>> option.
>>> The fault lies lies in human evolutionary history.
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>
>> Is that really true? Is destroying dictatorships worse than letting them
>> thrive in the long run? What about biodiversity having a conflict with
>> monocrops?
>>
>> Could you please elaborate a bit to allow me to better understand your
>> point?>
>> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Looking at history, it doesn't matter which option we say we prefer.
> Plenty of people will prefer the other option, and conflict ensues.
> Monocrops saved millions from starvation.
> All options benefit some people, and conflict ensues again.
Hmm, to pick one example, I think markets is one where everyone, including
monopolists (over time) have benefited. Everyone on the planet, no matter
if it's a dictator, democrat or a peasant, reap the benefits of capitalism
in ther form of lower cost of living, better technology and so on.
I find that only if you zoom in on small stretches of time, would you be
able to credibly argue, that the counterpoint would be valuable.
> BillK
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