[ExI] Science had an article about hwat is kiling bees. virusesspread by miyrd.

[Stuart LaForge]

On 2025-07-24 13:11, spike jones via extropy-chat wrote:
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> bees. virusesspread by miyrd.
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> It seems possible to engineer a fly paper that would stick to mites but 
> nou
> bees.
> 
> Spread this idea around.
> 
> Keith
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> Thx Kieth.  This has been all the buzz in the beekeeper community.  
> Back in
> the olden days, amitraz would whoop the mites' asses.  Now it appears 
> they
> have evolved around it.
> 
> https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-identify-culprit-behind-b
> iggest-ever-u-s-honeybee-die
> 
> Its why beekeeping is so difficult: the bee parasites evolve more 
> quickly
> than the bees.  By using amatrax and the other miticides, we make the
> problem worse in the long run, because we don't select the 
> mite-resistant
> bees.
> 
> But amitraz selects the amitraz-resistant mites.
> 
> While that industry struggles, please do your old uncle spike a big 
> favor
> and DON'T EAT HONEY.  Just don't do it.  Leave that on the shelf, put
> something else in whatever it is you thought needs honey, do your part 
> to
> reduce the price of honey, so more beekeepers will let their bees 
> devour
> their own honey in the winter, rather than what we do to them: take 
> their
> honey, then feed them with corn syrup.
> 
> Bees can live on corn syrup, however... we use neonicotinoids on our 
> corn to
> keep the pests offa that.  Then we make corn syrup outta that corn, the
> neonics make it into the corn syrup and weaken the bees fed on corn 
> syrup.
> 
> What's that you say?  Nicotine is poison?  Who knew?
> 
> So do your part.  Don't buy honey, don't eat it in the restaurant if 
> they
> supply it.  The bees work like... well... bees to make that stuff, 
> so...
> it's theirs.
> 
> Fun aside: in the olden days the grove man was willing to give the bee 
> man
> all the space he wanted, but didn't pay him.  Over time, the market for
> honey and wax have diminished YAAAAY but the price went way up BOOOO.  
> So
> now grove man pays the bee man, which means the bee man is less 
> dependent on
> extraction.
> 
> Oh hey, idea!  Extraction!  If you are tempted to eat honey, find out 
> where
> the local centrifugal honey extraction facility is located, then ask if 
> you
> can see it in person.  Once you see the real world process, you won't 
> touch
> the damn stuff.  You won't be able to unsee it.  It is worse than a 
> sausage
> factory in its way.  It will make you barf.  But it will be a good 
> barf.
> 
> spike

Heh, that is funny because honey is literally concentrated evaporated 
bee-barf. Insects of the species A. mellifera collect nectar from 
flowers, digest it until they get back into the hive, then barf it into 
the mouths of their sisters to distribute it to the sororal collective 
known as the hive. Everybody gets to take their little cut of the 
regurgitated nectar, the hive door guards, the nursery workers, the 
queen tenders, and the queen herself. But the excess gets barfed into a 
hexagonal cell of the honeycombs which operate simultaneously as a 
vomitorium, a pantry, and a crib for the baby bees. There are bees 
literally doing drying duty by flapping their wings just to evaporate 
the water from the bee vomit until it becomes so sweet and hypertonic 
that not even bacteria want it.

And the worse thing about honey? It is often touted as some kind of 
health food because it is natural, but in reality, the multiple rounds 
of digestion before the bee-barf made it to the honeycomb have 
enzymatically converted all the sucrose that was in the original nectar 
and broken it down into glucose and fructose monomers. And guess what? 
That means that bee-barf is chemically pretty much like high-fructose 
corn syrup, the nasty man-made stuff that is supposedly killing us 
humans, contaminated with partially digested pollen, or whatever else 
fell into a honey comb before you got the honey.

Honey is just dried out bee-barf that changes stomachs and hands many 
times before it gets to you.

Stuart LaForge