[ExI] 1DIQ: an IQ metaphor to explain superintelligence

[Jason Resch]

On Sat, Nov 1, 2025, 6:23 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> On 01/11/2025 21:42, Jason Resch asked, and Ben answered:
> >> Do you not believe in objective truth?
> >
> >      No.
>
> Ok, that's probably too simplistic, and needs explaining.
>
> I don't think there is such a thing as /absolute/ truth, is a better way
> of putting it. Obviously there are 'objective truths', as John pointed
> out with his example of a bridge falling down or not.
>
> > consider the objective truths for statements such as "it is right to do
> X" or "it is wrong to do Y". If there are objective truths, these extend to
> an objective morality. There would be an objective truth to what action is
> best (even if we lack the computational capacity to determine it).
>
>
> Statements like that can't be 'objectively true', because they are not
> about objective things. Right and Wrong are concepts in human minds, not
> things that exist in themselves. If there were no people, there would be
> no right and wrong. No morality. 'Objective morality' is an oxymoron,
> just as 'objective beauty' or 'objective jealousy' are. These are all
> things that don't exist without subjective experience.
>

I agree that good and bad (and hence right and wrong) depend on the
existence of conscious beings.

Despite that the states of these conscious beings is subjective, it's
nevertheless objectively true (or false) that "subject X is experiencing
pain."

>From these objective facts (concerning subjective states) it becomes
possible to develop an objective morality.

For example, I might propose that it's an objective moral truth that
"needlessly torturing innocent children" is a moral wrong.

Jason
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