[ExI] Google’s Willow Quantum Chip: Proof of the Multiverse?

[Adrian Tymes]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 8:05 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Astronomers have done a lot better than that!! It has been proven experimentally that if some sort of cosmic conspiracy had been generated (superdeterminism) that conspiracy must be older than 7.8 billion years, nearly 4 billion years older than the sun. The probability the observed correlations were just a coincidence is one part in 100 billion billion.

Yes, and?  "These particular photons were generated billions of years
ago.  One was in one state, the other was in the other.  We didn't
know which was which until now."

> I don't think human brains are wired up in a way that will ever allow them to make quantum mechanics seem intuitively obvious, things might be different for Mr. Jupiter Brain.

Someone (some say Napoleon, some say others) once said, "You would
make a ship sail against the winds and currents by lighting a bonfire
under her decks?  I have no time for such nonsense."  And yet, the
concept of steam-powered ships seems easy enough to understand to us.
(To me, anyway.)  It is possible that, once we have more information
and better explanations, quantum mechanics will one day be about as
comprehensible to average humans.  (Average for that day in the
future, accounting for - hopefully - improved education, and perhaps
some degree of AI assistance.)

Or that might not happen.  But I don't think the problem is primarily
biological.

> I can't prove that superdeterminism is wrong but as I've said before, I can prove that superdeterminism is silly. The greater the violation of Occam's razor that your theory needs to be true the sillier it is, and by that metric it would be impossible to be sillier than superdeterminism.

Sure it is.  Assuming the existence of other universes that magically
split apart and can never interact with ours, and yet still manage to
produce results we can observe anyway, seems sillier.