[ExI] Google’s Willow Quantum Chip: Proof of the Multiverse?

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Wed Nov 12 17:36:12 UTC 2025


On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 12:29 PM Jason Resch <jasonresch at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 12:16 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 12:18 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 11:48 AM BillK via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >> Yesterday, when Kimi was asked to compare the Multiverse with Superdeterminism, it preferred the MWI option due to the severe problems posed by superdeterminism.
>> >>
>> >> Today, I never mentioned superdeterminism, but just asked Kimi to consider how unlikely the multiverse is, as in your comment above. Kimi agreed with you, but did not suggest superdeterminism as the alternative. Kimi discussed the problems with MWI and concluded that at present, we don't know how to solve the measurement problem. We await further research on this mystery.  :)
>>
>> I agree with that conclusion: we don't know for sure if it's MWI,
>> superdeterminism, or something else.  The discussion was about what
>> each of us finds more likely, and why.
>
> Did you notice that the AI described superdeterminism as "conspiratorial?"

I checked again, and neither "superdeterminism" nor "conspiratorial"
appear in the conversation at
https://www.kimi.com/share/19a73bad-87d2-8674-8000-000039699934 that
Bill posted.

Your conversation had a bunch of loaded questions, as I pointed out,
so it's irrelevant if they appeared there.

> I think Bill's conversation shows this is not some kirk of my description of superdeterminism, but a core part of superdeterminism.

As superdeterminism is not mentioned at all in that conversation, this
conclusion does not follow from that particular data.



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