[ExI] ai 2027

[John Clark]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:15 PM Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

 > *I don't understand the need to "race" into the future. *


*I am in the race to the future camp because I think the present could be
improved and also because I believe that the AI Singularity is inevitable
no matter what we do, and it might not kill me. And if it does… well… I
can't think of a more interesting way to die than being consumed by the
Singularity, I'd like to live long enough to see it. *

*John K Clark *







On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 10:43 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> I have always been a racy kinda guy.  That’s hard to stop.  Are you a
>> slow-down or a race?  John, Adrian, Ben, Mike, others please?  Racers all?
>> Or… what?  Both of these choices have their challenges, but the way the
>> choice is framed is too Boolean for me.  Are there any other branches on
>> their flow chart?
>>
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> I am not of a competitive nature.  I don't understand the need to "race"
> into the future.  I don't think we can slow down the future any more than
> we can speed it up - it gets here when it gets here.
>
> I do think we can make stupid mistakes because we're believing our own
> hype about how much more productive AI is making everyone.  Computers have
> made businesses productive and efficient per time spent on whatever tasks
> for 80 years - are the employed proles seeing much of that increase?
>
> I used to write programs.  Now I spend as much time debugging programs
> that were either written by bad programmers or written by bad programmers
> using AI.  So much "push" to use AI ends with "... and verify the results"
> - but what happens when we don't understand the domain well enough to
> verify anything?  It's already happening and it's getting worse faster than
> anyone would have predicted.
>
> Are there countermeasures to an AI pandemic?  We wore masks to fight
> covid.  Do we have any prophylactic against the dumbening (mental muscle
> atrophy from dis-use)?
>
> I would support going faster if we had some reasonable protection from
> losing ourselves in the process.  It seems to me that nobody has time for
> self-care and the discipline to maintain mental hygiene that it will take
> to continue to drive past the 2026, 2027, 2030, etc  point that pundits are
> proclaiming will be the end of life as we know it.
> (drive in the sense of piloting a vehicle vs being too drunk to have
> focus/faculty, but the "vehicle" is one's own life vs too accepting of
> generated "solutions" to the difficulty of living)
>
> I almost deleted this reply because I know it's not as coherent as I would
> like.  I don't really know better how to articulate the looming threat that
> is just beyond the horizon... whether that's a sailing analogy around the
> disappearance of ships over the curvature of the earth or an event horizon
> around the singularity as a black hole from which we can never escape ... I
> don't know.
>
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