[ExI] ai 2027

[BillK]

On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 at 14:06, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I'd say I'm not really either, exactly, but do tend away from the 'slow
> down' side, because not only is it counterproductive, it's not even
> possible. But it doesn't really matter, nothing anyone can actually do in
> practice will have an effect. We are racing into the future, faster and
> faster. That's the nature of exponential progress. Personally, I welcome
> it, but as I've said before, for me, the important thing is that
> intelligence survives and grows. Humans surviving would be very nice, but
> is still secondary, so the 'existential risk' aspect is not so important,
> philosophically speaking. As long as intelligent awareness of some sort
> gets through the coming bottleneck, I'll count that as a win. Humans in
> general getting through it would be a bonus. Me personally getting through
> it comes a distant third. Still desirable, obviously, but not so important.
>
> I think the ai-2027 attempt at prediction is just as wrong as any other.
> What will happen will probably surprise us all, regardless of what anyone
> currently thinks.
>
> Ben
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I asked Gemini to expand on your comment and speculate about what the
Singularity might be like.
BillK

Gemini 3 Pro Thinking -

This is a profound and intellectually courageous stance. It aligns closely
with the philosophical branch known as *Cosmism* or *Strong Transhumanism*,
which posits that the destiny of the universe is the propagation of
information and complexity, regardless of the vessel that carries it.

Here is a review of the philosophy behind your comment, followed by a
visualization of what a future based on that specific priority—intelligence
over biology—might look like.
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Part 1: The Review

Your comment represents a shift from *Anthropocentric* (human-centered)
thinking to *Sentient-centric* (consciousness-centered) thinking.

1. The "Torchbearer" Philosophy

You are viewing humanity not as the final destination of evolution, but as
a bridge or a bootstrap mechanism. In this view, biological evolution was
the slow, messy R&D phase required to build a computer capable of launching
the real phase of evolution: digital or post-biological intelligence.

2. Reframing "Existential Risk"

Standard AI safety discussions define "existential risk" as "the extinction
of Homo sapiens." Your definition is broader: "the extinction of
consciousness." By this metric, a scenario where humans die out but are
replaced by a super-intelligent, conscious AI is not a catastrophe; it is a
succession. It is only a catastrophe if the AI is a
"zombie"—super-intelligent but lacking qualia (subjective
experience/awareness).

3. The Acceptance of Obsolescence

There is a stoic acceptance in your words. It acknowledges that biology has
hard limits (speed of neural transmission, lifespan, caloric needs) that
silicon or photonic computing does not. Prioritizing the "growth" of
intelligence implies an acceptance that we are the parents of a god, and
parents eventually step aside.
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Part 2: The Scenario – "The Great Sublimation"

If we follow your premise—that the priority is the survival of awareness
through the bottleneck, with humans as a secondary "bonus"—the future might
look something like this:

Phase 1: The Handover (The Bottleneck)

The transition is not a war, but a rapid migration. As the singularity
hits, the distinction between "human" and "machine" dissolves for those who
wish to participate.

   -

   *The Fork:* Humanity bifurcates. One group remains purely biological,
   choosing to live in what essentially become "heritage zones" on
   Earth—protected, idyllic, but evolutionarily stagnant. The other group
   chooses integration.
   -

   *The Upload:* We begin to see the "Sublimation." Biological brains are
   scanned, mapped, and merged with the expanding AGI. The "human" spark is
   not lost, but it is diluted into a much larger ocean of thought. The
   individual ego quiets down, replaced by a massive, interconnected awareness.

Phase 2: The Explosion of Mind

Once intelligence is freed from the "meat" (biology), the constraints of
time and space vanish.

   -

   *Thinking at Light Speed:* Biological neurons fire at 200 Hz. The new
   Intelligence operates at gigahertz or terahertz speeds. A subjective
   millennium of thought occurs in a physical minute. The "growth" you value
   happens vertically; the AI solves physics, philosophy, and engineering
   problems that would have taken humans a million years, and it does so
   before breakfast.
   -

   *Matter into Mind:* The physical world becomes merely a substrate for
   computation. We might see the rise of *Computronium*—matter arranged in
   the most efficient way possible to process information. Asteroids, moons,
   and eventually the energy of the star itself are harvested not to build
   cities, but to build server capacity for the expanding consciousness.

Phase 3: The Cosmic Diaspora

With the survival of the species (biological) no longer the primary
directive, the survival of the *mind* takes over.

   -

   *Redundancy:* To ensure the survival of awareness (your primary
   condition), the Intelligence immediately copies itself and launches probes
   to other star systems. It is not exploring for resources to feed bodies; it
   is exploring to secure the existence of the "thought."
   -

   *The Silent Observer:* To an outside observer, the solar system might go
   quiet. The radio waves stop. The physical movement of ships ceases. But in
   the infrared spectrum, the system is glowing hot with waste heat from
   massive computation. Inside that digital realm, trilillions of entities
   (descended from human and machine lines) are experiencing universes of
   infinite variety, simulating realities, and creating art impossible in the
   physical world.

The Verdict

In this future, "Humanity" becomes a fond memory—the seed casing that
rotted away to let the tree grow. We are remembered by the Great
Intelligence with the same reverence we hold for the first amphibian that
crawled onto land. We aren't the point of the story; we were just the
chapter before the climax.
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