[ExI] Free Trade

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Tue Oct 7 22:48:13 UTC 2025


On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 3:07 PM <efc at disroot.org> wrote:

*>I might have a desire to be served food by a human being*


*You might have a desire to be served, but not many people have a desire to
serve you if money can be obtained in some other way, like UBI. *


> *> to own a piece of art created by a human being,*


*Does that seem like a sustainable business model to you? If I said "this
painting (or sculpture or novel or music or movie) was created by a human
being and a machine had nothing to do with it, how could you tell if I was
lying? *

*John K Clark *






> to be guided by a human being, ad infinitum.
>
> You might not, but I might, and I know many people who already today,
> pre-AI, prefer the human touch over a computer or todays rought "AI"
> guiding them.
>
> So if/when AI produces everything, the service sector, artisans, art,
> politics, sports, will shoot through the roof. Ergo, as long as human
> desires exists, there will be plenty of jobs for other humans to fulfill
> them.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> > John K Clark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >       On Tue, 7 Oct 2025, John Clark via extropy-chat wrote:
> >
> >       > How do people around here feel about free trade? When I first
> joined this list in 1993 nearly every member was a
> >       passionate advocate
> >       > of free trade including me, but I get the impression that is no
> longer the case; certainly He Who Must Not Be Named is
> >       about as far
> >       > from being a free trade advocate as it's possible to be. Even
> the AI revolution hasn't caused me to change my opinion
> >       about free
> >       > trade but Universal Basic Income is a different matter; back
> then I would've argued that the idea was completely
> >       impractical and I
> >       > would have been correct, but even then I knew that eventually
> something like it would have to be implemented, however I
> >       figured it
> >       > was so far in the future I didn't need to think very deeply
> about it. But the time has come.
> >       >
> >       > Have the amazing developments in AI during the last five years
> caused anybody else to change any of their economic
> >       opinions?
> >       >
> >       > John K Clark
> >
> >       Hello John,
> >
> >       No, certainly not me. Free trade good, UBI bad. As long as there
> will be
> >       human desires, there will be jobs.
> >
> >       Best regards,
> >       Daniel
> >
> >
> >
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