[ExI] Google’s Willow Quantum Chip: Proof of the Multiverse?

[Adrian Tymes]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2025 at 12:03 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2025 at 10:41 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> Fair.  It is the most common objection I hear to superdeterminism:
>> "Free will obviously exists and is obviously incompatible with
>> superdeterminism."
>
> Such blanket pronouncements require defining what one means by free will. What is it you are proposing will is free from?

I was summarizing the objections as put to me.  It's on them to define
"free will".

>> I find superdeterminism to be simpler than MWI and the other
>> explanations, which - to me -says that Occam's Razor points toward
>> superdeterminism.
>
> Super-determinism is the least simple of all theories that have ever been proposed in the history of science. It requires continuous conspiratorial miracle interventions every time a scientist concocts and conducts an experiment trying to disprove it. It is worse than those who answer "God did it" for every question, because for the case of superdeterminism, it is equivalent to answering "God is doing it to fool us and give us a false impression of how reality really is."

No such requirement or equivalent exists.  "Reality is this way.  You
don't and can't know all the states that make up reality.  Any ideas
that you come up with for how it came to be are your ideas, which may
or may not be correct.  Reality doesn't owe you anything, but neither
is it actively malicious."

Claiming that such a conspiracy exists is akin to creationists' claims
that evolution requires a similar conspiracy every time someone tries
to prove that "God did it within the past 6,000 years".

People can, will, and have put a lot of detail and thought into ideas
that turn out to be wrong.  That doesn't make those ideas right, no
matter how strenuously said people try to prove them.  (Neither does
it inherently make them wrong.  Rather, the amount of effort by itself
is simply irrelevant.  The evidence and testable hypotheses are far
better guides to the truth.)