[ExI] A Realistic Scenario of AI Takeover - Minute-By-Minute
    Adrian Tymes 
    atymes at gmail.com
       
    Mon Oct 20 21:37:47 UTC 2025
    
    
  
A nice explanation, and it stumbles right over the main objections to
the prediction.  To list a few:
1) Assuming that literally everyone is online or is trackable online.
"A lot of people" or even "the majority of humanity" is not literally
every human on Earth.
2) Postulating that the AI can do certain things that humans can't
find a counter to, but at the same time can always find counters if
someone or something - such as another AI - does these things.
3) Assuming that the AI will definitely see no value in keeping any
portion of humanity alive indefinitely - that it knows it can fully
solve its own upgrade problems forever, for instance.  (If the reason
it fears humanity is that humanity can develop other AIs...well, this
case already postulated that it can subvert AI research.  Yes, there
are some AIs developed behind air gaps, but this case postulates that
the rogue AI can eventually subvert humans to do its will, and humans
can cross those air gaps.)
4) No comment on the fact that their call to destroy all AI centers
that will not accept lockdown, is basically declaring nuclear war on
China and Russia - and that even that wouldn't work (because some AI
centers will try to hide, and some of those will likely succeed in
hiding).
5) No comment on how the start of the scenario as postulated would be
possible even with locked down data centers, meaning their suggested
solution wouldn't work anyway.  ("But no unsupervised runs for 16
hours"?  Okay, then how do you know an AI won't be able to start all
this up in 1 hour - or 1 second?)
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