[ExI] Non-rational humans can have benefits

Ben Zaiboc ben at zaiboc.net
Fri Oct 31 21:27:34 UTC 2025


On 31/10/2025 19:04, BillK wrote:
> Humans are emotional creatures, not logical machines.
> The floods of emotions in humans have survival benefits. That is
> why they developed and persist.
> Cold logic would "dehumanise" humans and produce bad results.
> That is why enemies have to be thought of as sub-human to justify killing.
>
> Benefits of non-rationality -
> Relationships, love, loyalty, and caring persist.
> Creativity and Innovation are often non-logical.
> Different moral systems that benefit their society are non-logical.
> Quick decisions in times of stress are intuitive.
> Hope and optimism keep humans going when, logically, they should just give up.
>
> And so on......   Being human seems preferable to being a "rational agent".

Dang, I didn't realise you can't have both.
Oh, wait... it's a trick, isn't it?
A bunch of 'em.

Logic isn't cold.
Emotions don't normally flood (but they can be cold).
Logic definitely has survival benefits too.
Intuition doesn't have to be non-logical.

And so on....... Being human includes being a rational agent. Sometimes.

And I propose reversing the terms in the first sentence, to: "Humans are 
emotional machines, not logical creatures". With a minimum of two 
exclamation marks.
Just to avoid any claims of discrimination or bias. We don't want people 
marching in the streets waving banners saying "Creatures are machines too!!"

This looks like it was written by a bored journalist, inspired by the 
tired old 'nature vs. nurture' so-called argument, wanting to generate 
an artificial 'controversy'.

BillK, are you a bored journalist?!!

-- 
Ben




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