[ExI] chinese colonization of africa etc

spike at rainier66.com spike at rainier66.com
Sat Sep 13 12:13:36 UTC 2025



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On 12/09/2025 22:09, BillK wrote:
> Well, I can see several morals to this story!

You could add one more, as the woman, in trying to save her almost-dead baby, was indirectly and inadvertantly responsible for the cessation of the medical supplies and whatever additional deaths and suffering etc. 
that would result.

Compassion can sometimes cause more suffering than it alleviates.

(I wonder, if they had realised the baby was dead during the flight, what they would have done then? Or rather, what would be the logical and most beneficial thing to do?)

--
Ben

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Ben, there are many dimensions to that story and what my friends were trying to do.

In that place, like many super underdeveloped places, their water source is the one river or stream coming down to the sea.  But humans live all up along the river, and it is their toilet and dishwater up there.  The tide comes in and out, so at high tide the flow is slower and the water has some salt backup, so those drinking from the only source must drink more of it, making them subject to perhaps cholera or other maladies we beat a long time ago.  A lot of them catch intestinal parasites just from drinking the only water source they have.  One can imagine it is that way in a lotta Africa still to this day: people die from insufficient supply of clean water.  CLEAN WATER they cannot get!  

We are over here working towards the next generation of faster microprocessor so we can calculate our way to lavish Bitcoin abundance, all the better to anesthetize our collective societal conscience in comfort and luxury, while our neighbors struggle for and fail to achieve a tall glass of clean water.  Mercy.

My friends were taking Santa bags of donated half-eaten penicillin and other mystery meds to some yahoo kinda halfheartedly claiming he knew what they were.  It isn't clear at all to me the effort was a benefit at all, and even my then-teenage self could see it was risky as hell.  What that village really needed was some means of filtering or distilling some clean water from the river, but to have that very long, they would need guns and ammo, and the guns and ammo are even more valuable than the water filter, and heeeere we go again.  It's why they can't have nice things.

Meanwhile... we super sophisticated advanced proles a short distance away are writing software to program our brains to fight each other and tear down the society which gave rise to our comfort, our longevity, our prosperity.

spike




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