[ExI] FW: bee free, honey! it's fake

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On Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 4:30 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 4:03 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ExI] FW: bee free, honey! it's fake
> >
> >
> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/sep/18/hives-honeybee-boom-tuscan-island-italy-aoe
> >
> > Unrelated, the Asian murder hornets eat bees.  Over the past 15 or 20
> years, they have killed most of the bees in France.  When they invade the
> US, no more honey or almonds.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > Keith, your last sentence sounds far too defeatist and implausible,
> considering the value loss for not fighting back.
>
> The French did not try to stop them.  The Brits are trying.  Japanese
> honeybees have evolved a way of killing hornets by forming a ball
> around them and overheating the hornet.  Ten years ago (or more) I
> proposed that the French modify a laser insect killer Jordan Kare was
> involved with to protect hives.
>
> Nothing came of it.
>
> Keith
> > Bees are generally not tuned by evolution to protect individuals in
> their hive.  Recall that time Picard went inside the Borg and killed a...
> colonist(?)
> >
> > Picard assumed he would need to shoot his way back out, but when
> "Security" arrive moments later, they paid no attention to him and didn't
> seem a bit concerned that an invader had just slain one of (part of?)
> their... themself (?) for they were not programmed to defend the individual
> when there is no individual, only the Borg.  They scooped up the corpse and
> carried it away, ignoring the captain.  They just didn't get it that some
> alien life form would have the balls to invade.  (Oh wait, that was Picard,
> not Kirk; perhaps I could rephrase that last comment.)
> >
> > Murder hornets are big sons a bitches.  OK, not sons, they are bitches,
> but they are really big compared to bees.  They must land down there,
> usually at the bottom of the hive, then walk in, the same way the bees do.
> So what if we had two conductors going across the entrance, spaced too far
> apart for the honeybees to complete the circuit, fired at about 5 Hz with
> any ordinary cheap 12 volt source, murder hornet sashays on in looking for
> lunch and a little buzz POW!
> >
> > The bees go about their business, haul the corpse of this unknown
> lifeform back out, toss it over the edge.
> >
> > If a prole were to think about it, he might be able to find a
> configuration which wouldn't cost much to make, thin, single piece, no
> installation cost, just put in there and plug it in, done.
> >
> > I am surprised the French are not at least trying to fight back.  Guess
> it isn't in their culture.  Or perhaps they are, this is the first I heard
> of that.  But this is America, and the notion of lethal self-defense is as
> deeply embedded in our culture as baseball and apple pie, even long after
> we evolved into football and twinkies as our national favorites.
> >
> > But it is more than honey and almonds, it is most citrus, and other nut
> crops.
> >
> > If one of you Exi chatters patents that murderer-zapper notion and makes
> a buttload off of it, resulting in saving perhaps a hundred billion dollars
> of agricultural products, good.  But sheesh at least invite me to dinner
> and offer to pay.
> >
> > I like sushi.
> >
> > spike
> >
> >
> >
>
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