[ExI] Eliezer new book is out now

[Adrian Tymes]

On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 12:12 PM spike jones via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> We figured out at the time that his last tear attitude was a kind of resignation, accepting the notion way back then that if anyone builds it, everyone dies.  And someone will build it eventually.  Hell we have entire divisions of the military working on it (very thinly disguised under the name "Space Force" perhaps (heh, ja sure, Space Force (that's so hard to figure out (whaddya gonna do in space that you can't do better down here?  (have satellites dogfight each other?  (sheesh of course that is your most secret military research (and of course it is AI.))))))

Did you put that aside there for me to comment on? :P

It is correct to observe that a large portion of the Space Force would
be better termed the Cyber Force, with little connection to space
except that cyber attacks against satellites are perceived to be much
cheaper to attempt (and thus, some argue, much more likely to be
experienced and need defending against) than anything physical.  This
ignores the fact that, unlike for physical defenses where you can only
ever make it more expensive to break through but sufficient force will
overcome, there are ways to 100% shut down certain avenues of cyber
attacks in ways that no amount of force on the attackers' side - at
least, via that specific avenue - can overcome.  (I am reminded of the
XKCD comic where people go on about the strength of encryption,
ignoring practical avenues to get the keys and thus bypass
encryption.)

But, yes, there is some attention being paid to the prospect of,
literally, satellites dogfighting - specifically, maneuvering around
each other while exchanging payloads meant to disable or destroy the
other.  Some of the Golden Dome stuff is about developing ways for
satellites or missiles to do this to missiles (which won't be firing
back, but will be moving fast and attempting to evade long enough to
reach their destinations).