[ExI] Holy cow!

[John Clark]

On Sat, Apr 11, 2026 at 6:43 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>>> *It is possible to connect to the Internet without presenting an attack
>>> surface. I could go on in depth about how, but ....*
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> * >> No you could not!  If you could, you'd be world-famous as the
>> greatest security expert the world has ever known.*
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> * > Tch.  It may be a grossly underappreciated set of tricks that
> few people know how to use, but I'm not the only one who knows them.*


*So we can all relax because you and a few other "grossly underappreciated"
geniuses know how to completely solve the problem of computer security?
Baloney!  *


* >> And Alan Turing claimed to have proven that in general there's no way
>> to know if your computer program has a bug such that it will run forever
>> without ever stopping and producing an answer, but according to you Gödel
>> was not the only one who was wrong, Turing must've been wrong too.*
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> *>  It is possible that some pages simply take forever to load. I cut them
> off when they do.  Granted, they fail to load as a result. *


*The trouble with that is that Alan Turing proved in general there's no way
to know if a computer program will take "forever to load", perhaps if you
had been just a little more patient and had waited one more second before
you cut it off the program would've finished loading. As I said before, in
general there's no way to know if your computer program has a bug such that
it will run forever without ever completing its assigned task and
stopping. *

* >> You are the one claiming to have found a way to make a computer
>> invulnerable from cyber attack, not me.*
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> * > That doesn't prevent a logical fallacy from being a logical fallacy.*


*Of course it doesn't, but what does that have to do with the price of eggs
in China? *

*John K Clark *
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