[ExI] Another reason why Platonism can't be true

BillK pharos at gmail.com
Mon Feb 23 15:17:09 UTC 2026


On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 at 22:36, Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> In this case, your only experience of information is physically embodied
> information, and you extrapolate from this to the conclude that information
> can only exist when it is physically embodied.
>
> But note this is simply an extrapolation from your limited experience as a
> being in this universe. It's not a logical argument, nor a proof, nor any
> kind of reliable evidence.
>
> <big snip>
>
> Jason
> _______________________________________________



Obviously, Ben and Jason are disagreeing because they are relying on
different assumptions.

Ben is sticking with the universe as we experience it. When you burn a
book, that knowledge disappears until research replaces it with similar or
alternative knowledge. Infinite undiscovered knowledge does not eternally
exist in other universes, waiting to be brought into our universe.
Unfortunately, Ben's assumptions cannot *disprove* other universes'
existence. He can only say that nobody has seen or detected them.

Jason, on the other hand, by stepping outside our universe, has an even
greater task to prove that an infinity of other universes exists. Gaps in
knowledge about our universe, like creation theory, quantum indeterminacy,
etc., are not *proof* of other universes. This is a philosophical argument
along the lines of 'turtles all the way down'. It may be the correct way to
view an infinity of universes, but it can never be proved because, by
definition, these universes lie outside our universe.

BillK
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