[ExI] Are Dyson swarms a good idea?

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Tue Jan 27 20:31:22 UTC 2026


On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 2:01 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 1:33 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> Let us assume the multi-world hypothesis from quantum mechanics, for
>> ease of framing.  Literally everything you do dooms our universe to
>> not be any of the other universes that branch off from that decision
>> point - and is therefore, by your logic, evil in equal measure to the
>> nigh-infinite (or maybe literally infinite) combined potential in
>> those other universes that ours will never experience.
>
> But that same multiverse theory says all possibilities are realized (though with different measure). This is why we can justify putting our seatbelt, even in a multiverse.

If the existence of things in other multiverses is sufficient, then
nothing you do matters according to your definition: all outcomes will
exist in some universes, regardless of what you do.

If not, then anything you do or don't do is infinitely evil according
to your definition, for all the outcomes are excluded from our
universe.

>> If everything you could do, including nothing, is infinitely evil,
>> then that measure of evil is rendered meaningless.  There would be
>> nothing that is more evil or less evil: they'd all be infinitely evil.
>
> Only if you think a living world is no better than a dead one. But then, why get up in the morning?

There are infinitely many varieties of living world.  All but one are
excluded from our universe.  Are you saying that their being in other
universes is okay (which means it doesn't matter how our universe
unfolds) or that it is not okay (which means excluding all those other
universes is not okay)?

This is why most people do not give things that might potentially
exist (given certain choices) equal moral weight to things that
already actually exist in our universe.  Claiming equivalency makes
choice of action meaningless, and the purpose of moral weight is to
guide choice of action, so any definition of moral weight that makes
it useless for its purpose is rejected.



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