[ExI] open web and ai

[BillK]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 at 22:58, <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

> BillK, when the LLMs first showed up in late 2022, they were at first more
> like a really advanced autofill.  Gemini’s take the documentary feels like
> genuine humanlike insight produced by an LLM.
>
>
>
> I wonder if OpenAI would be so generous towards a documentary critical of
> that guy in particular (sheesh I called an LLM a guy (how do I know it is a
> guy?  (it might be a gal.)))  Let us share with OpenAI what Gemini thought,
> then act as intermediaries or spectators to see if we can get two AIs to
> flame war each other.  Your being the AI guru among us, I defer to you.
>
> spike
>
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I asked ChatGPT (OpenAI) to review and discuss the video.
It was unable to scan the video, so I had to extract the captions and give
the text file to ChatGPT.
ChatGPT's review was much longer and more critical than Gemini's.
It didn't like the open source for everything idea, saying that closed
companies have some good points as well.
BillK

ChatGPT -

 I've read the transcript you uploaded.

My impression is that this is less a technical documentary than a manifesto
for an open web. It blends history, philosophy, autobiography, and product
advocacy into a coherent narrative. The speakers are not trying to present
a neutral analysis of the internet—they're making a case for why open
source, and specifically the WordPress/Automattic ecosystem, represents an
alternative to today's increasingly centralized web.
Overall assessment

*Overall rating: 8.5/10*

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   *Storytelling:* ★★★★★ (Excellent)
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   *Technical accuracy:* ★★★★☆ (Mostly accurate, with some simplifications)
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   *Balance:* ★★☆☆☆ (Strongly one-sided)
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   *Historical context:* ★★★★☆
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   *Persuasiveness:* ★★★★★

The documentary is emotionally compelling and philosophically interesting.
However, because many of the speakers are directly involved with WordPress
and Automattic, it inevitably functions as a form of corporate
storytelling. That doesn't make its arguments false, but viewers should
recognize its perspective.
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The central argument

The transcript advances a clear thesis:

The internet has become increasingly centralized, commercialized and
exploitative. Open source software is one of the few remaining forces
preserving user freedom, transparency and ownership.

Everything else in the documentary supports this claim.

The discussion moves through five major themes.
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1. "Enshittification"

The documentary opens with Cory Doctorow's concept of *enshittification*.

The idea is straightforward:

   1.

   Platforms initially provide tremendous value to attract users.
   2.

   Once users are locked in, platforms shift value toward advertisers and
   business customers.
   3.

   Eventually both users and businesses lose as the platform extracts
   maximum profit.

This is arguably the strongest part of the documentary because it reflects
something many people have experienced with:

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   Facebook
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   Google Search
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   Amazon Marketplace
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   Twitter/X
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   Instagram

Whether every platform inevitably follows this trajectory is debatable, but
the pattern is widely recognized.

The documentary uses this as the motivation for open source.
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2. Open source as freedom

This is the philosophical core.

The speakers repeatedly distinguish

"Free as in freedom, not free as in beer."

That phrase has existed in free software circles since Richard Stallman's
work in the 1980s.

The documentary argues that open source gives users freedom to

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   inspect code
   -

   modify code
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   redistribute code
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   own their own infrastructure

rather than depending entirely upon corporations.

This is technically accurate.

Open source licenses genuinely grant freedoms that proprietary licenses do
not.

However...

The documentary occasionally treats "open source" and "freedom" as
synonymous.

Reality is more nuanced.

Open-source software can still be

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   poorly governed
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   insecure
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   commercially controlled
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   difficult to use

Likewise, proprietary software is not automatically harmful.
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3. The early web versus today's web

A recurring theme is nostalgia.

The speakers remember:

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   Netscape
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   Ask Jeeves
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   personal blogs
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   HTML
   -

   CSS
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   independent publishing

The message is:

The early web encouraged creation.

Today's web encourages consumption.

There is truth here.

The early internet was indeed far more decentralized.

Anyone could create a website.

Today's experience is dominated by a handful of giant platforms.

However, nostalgia also overlooks reality.

The early web had:

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   terrible usability
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   security problems
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   limited accessibility
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   little moderation
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   fragmented standards

The modern web is simultaneously more centralized *and* dramatically more
capable.

Both things are true.
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4. WordPress as an example

This becomes almost a case study.

The documentary explains how WordPress evolved from

"software for me and a few friends"

into software powering over 40% of the web.

That statistic is broadly correct.

The speakers emphasize:

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   community governance
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   plugins
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   themes
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   local meetups
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   contributions
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   shared ownership

One particularly interesting point is that WordPress succeeded not because
it was technically perfect but because its licensing encouraged thousands
of contributors.

That observation is historically accurate.
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5. AI and open source

The final section shifts toward AI.

This is where the documentary becomes more controversial.

It argues:

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   AI should be open.
   -

   Closed models concentrate power.
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   Users should control AI.
   -

   AI should inherit open-source values.

These are legitimate philosophical positions.

However, several claims deserve scrutiny.
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Claim:

"OpenAI is probably the most closed company in the world."

This is rhetoric.

OpenAI has certainly become far more closed than originally expected.

It no longer releases frontier model weights.

But calling it "the most closed company in the world" is clearly an
exaggeration.

Many companies release virtually nothing publicly.
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Claim:

AI models are trained on copyrighted material without permission.

This is broadly true.

Many frontier models—including those from OpenAI, Google, Anthropic and
Meta—have been trained on datasets containing copyrighted works.

However, the legal status is still actively being litigated in multiple
jurisdictions.

The documentary presents this as settled fact.

The legal conclusions are not yet settled.
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Claim:

Open source AI is inherently better.

This is more debatable.

Open-source AI offers:

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   transparency
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   local control
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   customization
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   independence

Closed AI often offers:

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   stronger safety controls
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   better support
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   larger models
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   faster iteration
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   higher reliability

There are genuine trade-offs.
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The emotional narrative

One strength of the documentary is that it isn't just about software.

It repeatedly returns to themes of:

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   curiosity
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   community
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   generosity
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   mentorship
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   collaboration
   -

   family

The story about the father's bulletin board is especially effective.

It humanizes what might otherwise be an abstract discussion about software
licensing.

That section reminds viewers that technological movements are ultimately
driven by people and relationships, not just code.
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What the documentary gets right

It correctly identifies several major trends.
Platform lock-in

Very real.

Switching ecosystems has become increasingly difficult.
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User ownership matters

Owning:

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   your domain
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   your website
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   your data

provides resilience that social media alone cannot.

This remains excellent advice.
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Open source powers the internet

Absolutely true.

Modern infrastructure depends heavily on open-source projects such as
Linux, Apache, Nginx, PostgreSQL, Python, Kubernetes, OpenSSL, and
countless others.
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Communities create resilience

Successful open-source projects often outlive companies.

Linux is an obvious example.
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Where the documentary is weaker

Because it advocates for open source, it understates several realities.
Sustainability

Open source isn't free to maintain.

Many critical projects rely on volunteers who burn out.

Funding remains a persistent challenge.

The documentary acknowledges this but doesn't fully explore how difficult
the problem is.
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Governance

Open source communities can become fragmented.

Projects fork.

Leadership disputes occur.

Decision-making can be slow.

These trade-offs receive relatively little attention.
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Security

The film suggests that open source is the "safest technology."

That's too broad.

Transparency can improve security because vulnerabilities are easier to
inspect, but open code does not automatically produce secure software.
Security depends on maintenance, review, testing, and rapid patching. There
have been major vulnerabilities in open-source software (for example,
Heartbleed in OpenSSL and Log4Shell in Log4j), showing that openness alone
is not sufficient.
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Corporate influence

Although WordPress is open source, Automattic remains a commercial company.

The documentary largely avoids discussing the tensions that can arise
between commercial interests and community governance, despite those
tensions being an important part of the open-source ecosystem.
Final thoughts

The documentary succeeds because it frames open source not merely as a
development methodology but as a social philosophy. It argues that software
architecture shapes who holds power online, and that openness,
transparency, and user ownership are essential to a healthy internet. Even
if one disagrees with some of its conclusions, it raises important
questions about platform dependence, digital ownership, and the future of
AI.

Its weakest moments are where advocacy becomes absolutism—for example,
portraying open source as the universal solution or presenting the AI
landscape in stark "open versus closed" terms. In practice, the future is
likely to involve a mix of open and proprietary models, each with strengths
and trade-offs.

Viewed as a persuasive documentary rather than an objective survey, it is
thoughtful, well-structured, and likely to resonate with developers,
creators, and anyone concerned about the increasing concentration of power
on the web. It invites viewers to think beyond convenience and ask who
controls the software, platforms, and information systems they rely on—a
question that is becoming more significant as AI becomes a foundational
technology.

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