[ExI] Sell your Bitcoins!

[Keith Henson]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2026 at 8:07 AM spike jones via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> From: John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>

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> > It is always a mistake to build power infrastructure on federal land.
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> >…But it shouldn't be! Why not change federal policy to something that is a little less dumb?
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> Projects built on federal land are always subject to the risk that is absent in power projects built on private land with private money.

Power projects are federally regulated, no matter where they are.
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>  > Build it where it is out of reach of federal regulations.  Don’t invest in any power project built on federal land.  That was simple.

There is no such place.

> >…Solar and wind farms need large amounts of land, and they can't be in cities or on valuable farmland…
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> Agree with both.  The southwestern USA is the answer to that.  Fly over it or view it on Google Earth, see vast stretches open land, no farming or cattle ranches, not federal land.  Granted there is little water, but you don’t need water to set up wind and solar farms.

Spike, virtually all that open land is federal. And by the way, from
30,000 feet, there is no way you could tell if it was being leased
from BLM for cattle or not.
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But there is another problem, getting the power from the Southwest to
where it is needed. AC power lines are not very good beyond 1000 km.
DC can do maybe twice that, but they are expensive as heck.
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> >… our senile president doesn't allow them to be built on the 28% of the total land area of the USA that is federal land, so where in hell are they supposed to be built?
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> On private land.  With private funding.

Most of the private land is farms. On government or private land,
virtually all new power infrastructure is privately funded. Wasn't
always that way; the great dams were government projects, some to
provide jobs in the depression.
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> >…He won't even allow them to be built offshore….
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> So don’t build them there.

I don't think a lot of wind farms, but that was an absolutely
irrational whim to pay to stop the project.
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> >… and is even willing to spend $1 billion to bribe a company not to do so!...
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> POTUS doesn’t spend taxpayer money John.  Congress does.

Who decided to stop the wind farms, and where did the money come from?

> >…Spike, do you really really feel that you have to defend this policy?
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> Not at all.  I am saying we shouldn’t use it.  Very simple.

Well, it looks like you are defending bonkers policy. I have not been
saying much on this business out of fear. You know my history of
interacting with a cult, and at my age, I can't oppose another cult,
especially one that has largely captured the legal system. Even
speaking up on this obscure list is dangerous.

Keith
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> >…Would you have done so if Biden had done it?
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> John K Clark
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> Same answer for all the same reasons.  Building on federal land introduces risks that privately funded projects on private land do not carry.

I suppose that is the case in the offshore wind projects where whim at
the top can shut them down. But what is the risk of irrational
leadership?

Keith
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