[ExI] Red

[Ben Zaiboc]

On Monday, 29 June 2026 at 13:19, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 6:54 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> On 26/06/2026 15:46, Brent Allsop wrote:
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>>>> > Whatever has a red (or redness) quality is just a brute physical fact
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>>> I'm curious about this idea that molecule X (or some other physical object) has a 'quality' that results in our seeing colour Y.
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> There is a question I've been asking Brent for a long time but I have never received a coherent answer: if molecule X in a strawberry is what gives it the redness qualia(I'm talking about qualia, NOT the ability to reflect light at a certain wavelength) then what gives molecule X the ability to do that? There are only two possible answers to that question, but I don't think Brent likes either one.
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> Brent, if I'm wrong about that assumption concerningyouthen please correct me.
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> John K Clark
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> That makes even less sense.
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> How could a molecule in a strawberry cause a quale? The qualia happen in our brains, not in the strawberries (not unless they had brains, but even then it would be irrelevant, because they would be experiencing it, not us).

> ---Ben

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