[ExI] OpenAI Reaches A.I. Agreement With Defense Dept. After Anthropic Clash

[Keith Henson]

On Sat, Feb 28, 2026 at 5:22 PM spike jones via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> From: John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>

> On Sat, Feb 28, 2026 at 6:09 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
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> >>> Do you have a clearance?
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> >> Nope. Do you?
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> >No, and that’s the point.
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> >…A top-secret clearance is not necessary to use logic, and your theory just doesn't make any sense….
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> I see.  And you are very confident that the pentagon wants AIs trained at West Point rather than Harvard?  So confident you are.  Not arrogant.  Well, OK, arrogant.  John we don’t know what the military has.  That is intentional.

Not arrogant, John is just right.  I am absolutely confident that the
military does not have a massive AI data center.  I am an EE, and I
follow what Musk is doing in Memphis and across the state line.
"Compute" on that scale is currently required for AI training; and
cannot be hidden.*

In any case, "training at West Point" is not the question.  Training
an AI on the material at West Point, along with all the text in the
world, has already been done.  What the AI companies are trying to do
is shape the AI after training to psychologically react to humans
morally and ethically.  It is a hard task, one that I suspect will
fail to humanity's detriment, perhaps to extinction.

As far as I know, all AIs to date have failed the Turing test by being
too nice.  The DoW is asking for one who has no inhibitions at all.

Keith

*On the other hand, for conspiracy buffs, maybe Musk built the Memphis
data center for the military.  Howard Hughes built the Glomar Explorer
for the CIA at what would be $1.7 B today.


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> > The US military (and every other military) has not been sitting on its hands worrying about AI for the past three decades.
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> >…The military HAS been sitting on their hands…
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> Oh so you DO have a top level clearance?
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> >…but they have not been worrying about AI…
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> And you have insider information, which you are freely spewing in an open forum.
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> >… I doubt if they even knew how to spell it….
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> Heh.  OK.
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> >…Geoffrey Hinton and John Hopfield recently won a Nobel prize for work they did in the field of AI in the 1980s, do you really think there  were hundreds or thousands of people with similar or even greater ability that were willing to work for the military for peanuts that we know nothing about? Ridiculous!
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> No John, your running commentary on military capability is ridiculous.  You are the eight year old child lecturing grandparents on the topic of sex.  You don’t know what the military is doing in AI, and you rely on uninformed logic to convince yourself that you know what is going on.  You failed to convince us however.
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> The military didn’t need to develop AI technology in parallel to the civilian world.  It has access to civilian technology and to a large extent intellectual property, for it can access the patent office.  It cannot develop commercial products from IP it harvested from the patent office, but you can be sure it uses it.
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> >…Spike, the thing about modern AI is that nobody understands exactly how they work, certainly not the military.
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> John K Clark
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> Hollywood Incorporated has been most successful in selling movies where the top military brass are stupid or crazy, or both.  They are neither.  People who write Hollywood scripts are seldom informed on military matters.  The whole notion sells movies however, and the military brass don’t mind: it helps them maintain secrecy if smug movie patrons underestimate their capability.
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> The brass have known about the military threat and weapons potential of AI for at least as long as we have.  They have ways of covering their tracks, and it works.  The atomic bomb was developed in complete secrecy.  We don’t know what they have in AI.
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> Consider that raid on Maduro’s compound in Venezuela.  Do you know what technology was used to do that?  Will logic get you there?  Even after the fact, do you know how they did it?  Do you believe the discombobulator cover story?  Any theories?  Do share please.
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> Do you know where DARPA’s AI money goes?  Can you figure it out with logic?
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> Do you know what goes on way up on the base at China Lake California, where you and I cannot go?  You can see buildings up there, in Google Earth view.  If there was a facility up there doing something with AI, can logic help you figure out what it is?  Do share.
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