[ExI] OpenAI Reaches A.I. Agreement With Defense Dept. After Anthropic Clash

Sun Mar 1 13:04:44 UTC 2026

From: John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, 1 March, 2026 4:24 AM
To: spike at rainier66.com
Cc: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Subject: Re: [ExI] OpenAI Reaches A.I. Agreement With Defense Dept. After Anthropic Clash

On Sat, Feb 28, 2026 at 8:21 PM <spike at rainier66.com <mailto:spike at rainier66.com> > wrote:

> John we don’t know what the military has. 

True, but we do know what the military does NOT have, they don't have a faster than light fighter plane, and they don't have an AI better than Claude ….

Agree they don’t have a faster than light fighter plane.  You and I don’t know what they have in AI.  The military will not have a company with guardrails and controls on their weapons.  They want to be in full control of their weapons.  Imagine that.  

That reminds me, you never answered my question. Do you agree with He Who Must Not Be Named …

John you are getting mired in politics.  It simplifies down to the military will not buy weapons it cannot fully control.  It will not accept safety guardrails put in place by any company, regardless of its politics.  I can see why they would feel that way.

 > AI conducting mass surveillance on US citizens predated the current POTUS.

>…Not like this….

Very much like this.  Government surveillance has been abused in a way foreseen by one of our own former posters Samantha Adkins.  She warned that the ability to work around the 4th amendment thru the FISA warrant would eventually be used for political purposes.  It was.  Now we are finding out that the FBI used weaponized surveillance.  Of course it is a threat.  AI can collect and concentrate information as never before.  Amodei cannot control it.  Musk cannot control it.  

>>…You failed to convince us however. 

>…Us? Who is "us"?

John you certainly convinced you.  You convinced us you don’t know nearly as much as you think you do.  We don’t know what the US government is doing with AI.  We don’t even know what the US Space Force does.  Do you?  Ask AI perhaps?

> They have ways of covering their tracks, and it works. The atomic bomb was developed in complete secrecy. 

>…No it was not! The Soviet Union knew the design of the device that produced the very first nuclear explosion that occurred during the Trinity test of August 1945 in the desert of New Mexico….

I see, and yet you confidently assert that the US military doesn’t have AI capability.  Nonsense.  We don’t know what they have.

>> Do you believe the discombobulator cover story? 

>…Of course I do! 

OK, sure.  Isn’t it puzzling that Maduro and Mrs. Maduro were apparently not disabled by it?

> Do you know where DARPA’s AI money goes?  Can you figure it out with logic?

>…No, even DARPA doesn't know where all its money goes, I think it's probably one of Godel's and Turing's undecidable questions….

Suddenly unsure of something John?  You don’t know?  Why don’t you know?  What happened?

> Do you know what goes on way up on the base at China Lake California, where you and I cannot go?  

>…It's where the military is building an anti-gravity drive that they reverse engineered from a flying saucer that crashed in Roswell New Mexico in 1947. That theory is just as logical as yours.  

John K Clark

John my theory is that we don’t know what the military already has and what it is doing.  You claim to know, and offer examples of flying saucers and anti-gravity drives.  It is far simpler than that: the military is developing, buying and otherwise collecting AI technology for weapons use by all available means.  It insists on having full control of that technology rather than trust a company to do that with unknown motives.  I can see why every military everywhere insists on having full control of its own weapons.

spike  

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