[ExI] ai in education

[spike at rainier66.com]

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, 13 March, 2026 11:38 AM
To: spike at rainier66.com
Cc: John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>; ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Subject: Re: [ExI] ai in education

"they follow legal orders only"

>...Unfortunately, that's a squishy term.  Was it legal orders to kill the boat survivors?  Or a war crime?  I don't expect an answer....

Keith we don't know if that happened.  We have accusations without evidence.  Some of the video of boats being shot to hell was AI generated, and apparently some of it was models used by the Navy to test their systems.

>...Perhaps as important as or more important than the military is the population reaction to the masked SS type force.  I don't know enough about pre-war resistance (White Rose) to the rise of the Nazies but it was obviously not as effective as the resistance to the excesses here (so far).  That resistance has at least slightly changed policy....

Germany did not have a constitution drawn up by people who had just finished defeating a tyrant.

>...I worry, like John, about the Constitution being ignored if certain aspects of the government can do so.  Some dictator-run countries have fine constitutions that are ignored....

Do those countries have a second amendment?  Do they have a militia?  We do.

>...The Jan 6 riot was certainly an attempt to do that....

One would think they would show up with actual firearms had they any intentions of taking over the government.

>...Didn't work, but the Constitution held on by a thread because the Vice President took his oath seriously and was not intimidated by the crowd erecting a gallows.  I generally did not think much of Pence, but I admire him for this....

It is unclear if Pence had any knowledge of any gallows, but the capitol building has evacuation tunnels* specifically for this purpose: preventing congress from being trapped by rioting mobs.  They were already gone by the time the crowd went into the capitol into the capitol.

>...I understand why people who think they are facing a bleak future support irrational leaders, for example, consider where MAGA is strongest.... Keith

West Virginia?  They aren't facing a bleak future at all.  Nothing changes there.  They have very little awareness of AI and the existential risk it poses to humanity.  Jobs are not much threatened by AI in the Appalachians.

>...I don't know what to do with this.  Perhaps I should discuss it with an AI.  They sometimes have good insight into human problems....

By all means, and do please share what it has to say.

spike

* Fun aside: I was making a lot of business trips to the DC area when that was being built (or more likely being expanded.)  What they were doing was not public domain, but the noise they were making at the US Naval Observatory was certainly public domain.  Dump trucks coming in empty and leaving full, around the clock, around the calendar, never stopping, was public domain.  My conclusion at the time was they were digging an extension to the underground system, such that the Naval Observatory was their evacuation site, or a stop along the way.

I do genealogy research.  One of my valued contacts in Greenbriar County WV worked as a truck driver in those years.  He didn't understand why, or what they were doing, nor was he paid to ask.  But in a military owned area, his job was to drive a truck from the site out to a dump area, drive back, park the truck, get in the next one already filled, repeat until quitting time.  He didn't know where all that soil was coming from, but he was puzzled, for there was no coal in it.  I don't know if it is the terminus of the DC tunnel system, and it seems like one hell of a lot of tunnel, but it could be that.