[ExI] ai in education

[Keith Henson]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 4:27 PM ilsa via extropy-chat
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> Oh Keith,
> How come science fiction is always pessimistic?

It isn't.  The Heinlein stories I grew up with were close to all optimistic.
> Could you write an optimistic scenario of this thread?

I did, 20 years ago.  Wrote another one a week ago.  Did you see
"Infectious Health."

Keith
> Smile, ilsa
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> Ilsa Bartlett
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> On Fri, Mar 13, 2026, 4:22 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> >...AI doesn't know any of us.  I suppose we could rely upon it to render a judgement on whether or not I am personally attacking John (or anyone else.)  BillK is the one among us who appears to be the most skilled in the use of AI.  I do invite him (or anyone else) to feed the entire exchange into AI, see if it "thinks" I am attacking anyone.  BillK?  Anyone?  spike
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>> Adrian, we have been discussing this for years, dacades: the use of AI as a judge.  This is cool: we get a chance to test it where the stakes are low.  Understatement, the stakes are zero.  There is no money to change hands, nothing but a disagreement among friends.  I consider everyone who posts on ExI a friend, even if we disagree on some matters.
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>> It is night in the UK where BillK lives, but he will see this in the morning and likely have a result for us soon.  In the meantime, I do wish to make it clear that my intention is not to attack John.  I disagree with him on his use of the term militia, or suggesting there is anything the least bit neo-Nazi about it.  A neo-Nazi group dressing up in camo and doing military exercises should be referred to as " a neo-Nazi group dressing up in camo and doing military exercises."  That is clumsy of course.  So we could call them "neo-Nazis."
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>> If we do, consider that they are a marching self-contradiction.  The first thing the original Nazis did is disarm the German citizenry.  This resulted in their facing little armed resistance as they rounded up their own citizens for a horrifying genocide, mass murder.  Our neo-Nazis are armed themselves, and have a right to do that, because of our constitution.
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>> Let's see what AI makes of our discussion.  It would be even more interesting to compare the various AIs: Claude, ChatGPT, Grok, and any others in common use.
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